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Offline Nilsen

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« on: August 31, 2005, 10:03:28 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 10:09:46 AM »
ya  i just read that.   Very very sad

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2005, 10:17:48 AM »
mostly wimmin and kids

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2005, 10:25:33 AM »
Truly sad.  It's depressing to think that some on this board may be quietly cheering this terribly tragedy.

I hope the person who yelled that there was a suicide bomber is identified.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 10:35:10 AM »
Tragic for sure, but I don't get it.
What kind of people, fearing for their lives or not, trample to death women and children??
What kind of fear does it take to so override human decency that you could tramp all over a child's body, living or dead?

I note it wasnt fear of attack by coalition forces, it is fear of themselves and the terrorists amongst them.

You would think that reason would come to the fore here somewhere before a situation like this one was allowed to develop. You would think the people would jack up about having reason to fear those among them to such an extent that crowds of people turn into pannicked herds at the thought that one among them may be about to take the public bus to martyrdom.

How do they condone the activities of these suicide bombers when they cause this kind of suffering among their own?

I can understand a lack of compassion toward foreign armies on their soil, but a complete disregard for the welfare of their own children is incomprehensible to me.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 10:46:27 AM »
Oh well.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 10:49:59 AM »
weren't they headed to a religious festival?

Whats allah say about this?
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 10:52:24 AM »
Bluedog:
1. They don't condone the suicide bombers.
2. Mobs are dumb, and once you're in a stampede, you cannot select who gets trampled because people are pushing from behind who don't see what's happening.
3. They were afraid of themselves, they were afraid of the terrorists.  Iraqi != terrorist, no matter what your indoctrination has suggested.
4. If the US had been attacked by terrorist suicide bombers as often as Iraq, then yelling that you saw one in a crowded stadium or church over here would have similar effects.
5. You appear to have little understanding of what a mob is constructed out of, and are exhibiting (in my opinion) a callous indifference that, while saddening, is not terribly surprising.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 11:00:11 AM »
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Tragic for sure, but I don't get it.
What kind of people, fearing for their lives or not, trample to death women and children??


Not so long ago there was a sale in the US on used iBooks. :D
Nobody was killed, but people did trample eachother.... for iBooks


In iraq there was a bomb scare, and the same could happen here if people panicked.. you never know.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005, 11:13:48 AM »
In Boston at Filene's Basement they have a yearly event that's been nicknamed "The Running of the Brides."  This is where grown woman will trample strollers and senior citizens in an all out effort to get first dibs on marked down wedding dresses.
 While waiting for the doors to fly open if someone were to holler out "A shoe sale!" or "suicide bomber!" I'm sure there would be a death toll.

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 03:21:40 PM »
OK, so it happens, and has happened elsewhere....doesnt make it any less sickening.

Edit: BTW Chairboy, I am not so indoctrinated as to believe that Iraqi=Terrorist, I fully realise that all of them arent.
My point is that enough of them are tollerated within and by the general Iraqi society to allow the people of Iraq to have reason to fear them in a situation such as this.
To me there is something fundamentally wrong there that no amount of outside influence will ever fix or change, it is something the Iraqi people must decide to do and must change themselves....namely by making it widely known that suicide bombers will recieve no glory, and in fact will actually inflict missery and suffering on their own families, ensuring their alienation from the community.
Perhaps if instead of "If I blow myself up, I will be a martyr" was changed to "If I blow myself up, my father will be stoned to death, my mother will have to beg for food and my young syblings will allmost certainly die" things might be differant.

That and wtf were they doing taking kids to a religeous gathering where this was not only possible but likely to happen.
If your religeon is strong enough to dictate mandatory attendance, you would think it would be strong enough to garuntee safety among one's peers.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 03:50:24 PM »
Don't many christian families take their kids to Christmas Mass?
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 03:55:33 PM »
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Don't many christian families take their kids to Christmas Mass?


Maybe they do.. and if they were on a bridge or similar in huge numbers i would guess there could be a panick and stampede if someone yelled something similar. Maybe not pre 9/11 but now. (In Iraq were suicide buffs are common the threat is real.) They would prolly grab their own kids and do anyting to get to safety.

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2005, 03:57:40 PM »
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Tragic for sure, but I don't get it.
What kind of people, fearing for their lives or not, trample to death women and children??
What kind of fear does it take to so override human decency that you could tramp all over a child's body, living or dead?

 


Soccer Match, anyone?
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2005, 04:03:42 PM »
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Soccer Match, anyone?


Never been to one and will never go unless my daugther decides to annoy her father by playing.

Anywho... Soccer fans are way to drunk to understand the word "bomb". :p