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Offline Castle51

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1350 on: May 31, 2009, 08:13:35 PM »
We'll give you your own arena with many strat targets.  For B29s only!

You can bomb until your hearts are content!



All because you're too afraid to intercept a bomber flying above 15k?

Sure, when its a lanc at 2k nobody has a problem with it but god forbid a B-17 climbs to 25k on a realistic bomber mission and you have to actually do some work to get him.  I believe there is a fitting term for this that I've posted in another thread already....

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So whats it gonna be.  Do you truly know what you're doing or are you just complaining to try and keep it easier for yourself?
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1351 on: June 01, 2009, 01:09:12 AM »
All because you're too afraid to intercept a bomber flying above 15k?

I still wait for film with you intercepting high alt bombers  :huh
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1352 on: June 01, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »
I still wait for film with you intercepting high alt bombers  :huh


With what, my B-17?  In case you haven't picked up on it yet I fly almost exclusively bombers in the MA so I've never had to intercept one.  I can show you films like the last one of people climbing to my alt to intercept me which proves it can be done if you're willing to take the time and can plan a decent attack.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1353 on: June 01, 2009, 08:37:18 PM »
Another thing I've noticed is aside from myself, I've never even heard of any other buff pilot climbing to the same altitudes I tend to fly at over an average mission.  I'm sure there must be a few out there that will go up to at least 25k but I've never seen anyone else do it before so actually finding a high alt. bomber to intercept I imagine would be pretty rare.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1354 on: June 02, 2009, 01:13:46 AM »
In case you haven't picked up on it yet I fly almost exclusively bombers in the MA so I've never had to intercept one.

I dont surprised at all, you are too afraid to intercept a bombers :lol And seems you like to be on easy side of coin. Its fine, just stop talking how easy and how fun something you never did itself.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1355 on: June 02, 2009, 02:39:25 PM »
And seems you like to be on easy side of coin. Its fine, just stop talking how easy and how fun something you never did itself.


It's OK if it only effects other people.......

If we get a B-29 it should be tracked from takeoff to give fighters time to climb to 30K in time for an intercept (Ground observers, Radar, ect.)

Should somebody be inclined to use that much time to intercept. After all climbing that high and loitering in case a B-29 happens by would be boring in the extreme.


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1356 on: June 03, 2009, 08:49:24 AM »
I dont surprised at all, you are too afraid to intercept a bombers :lol And seems you like to be on easy side of coin. Its fine, just stop talking how easy and how fun something you never did itself.


How about this, grab a B-17, climb up to 33k and then tell me where your going and I'll shoot you down cause like I said I'm the only one I know of that flies buffs above 35k, therefore being the closest comparison to the B-29's capabilities the game has so far.  I can show you a clip of me flying a Ta-152 up to 40,000 feet and setting up mock attacks on an imaginary bomber flight if that helps.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1357 on: June 03, 2009, 08:50:02 AM »
B-17
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13 × .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns
Maximum speed: 287 mph (249 kn, 462 km/h)
Short range missions (<400 mi): 8,000 lb (3,600 kg)
Range: 2,000 mi
Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)

B-29
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Maximum speed: 357 mph (310 knots, 574 km/h)
10× .50 in (12.7 mm) caliber Browning M2/ANs in remote controlled turrets
2 x .50 in and 1× 20 mm M2 cannon in tail position
Combat range: 3,250 mi (2,820 nm, 5,230 km)
Bombs: 20,000 lb (9,000 kg) standard loadout, could be modified to
externally carry two 22,000 lb (10,000 kg) T-14 "Earthquake" bombs
Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)

Difference
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12,000 lbs of ord (not counting the T-14 "Earthquake"). - B-29
70 mph faster - B-29
Guns - B-29 (Same number of guns, but 20mm tailgun packs a punch).
1,250mi Range difference - B-29


Why I don't want to see it.
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A plane at ~35k going 357 mph with our planeset is going to be INCREDIBLY difficult to catch.(the lala has a max speed of 423 on the deck...)
Bombload. 20,000 lbs of bombs? That's MORE than enough to level a field, with or without t3h n00k.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1358 on: June 03, 2009, 08:50:41 AM »
It's OK if it only effects other people.......(Image removed from quote.)

If we get a B-29 it should be tracked from takeoff to give fighters time to climb to 30K in time for an intercept (Ground observers, Radar, ect.)




Oh yeah, good idea.  Sounds kind of like..... well uhh....  oh yeah, a DAR BAR!

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1359 on: June 03, 2009, 08:52:58 AM »

Oh yeah, good idea.  Sounds kind of like..... well uhh....  oh yeah, a DAR BAR!
Dar bar gives limited info saying, "There's this many more cons in this sector than friendlies." Not "Oh, there's a b-29 at 33k, a P-40 on the deck, oh, and hey, another spitty at 4k."
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1360 on: June 03, 2009, 09:00:07 AM »
If your going to fly a B-29 all the way up to it's max alt then your need a hobby.




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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1361 on: June 03, 2009, 09:02:03 AM »
Dar bar gives limited info saying, "There's this many more cons in this sector than friendlies." Not "Oh, there's a b-29 at 33k, a P-40 on the deck, oh, and hey, another spitty at 4k."

So what you're asking for is to see a little red dot with "B-29" over it on the map?  Sounds like HTC would be all for that seeing as how nobody had anything anywhere near that kind of ability at all during WWII.  Here's a hint.  If you see an enemy dar bar 100 miles within the enemy's territory, its probably a bomber going to altitude. (and if its the rooks you're looking at then its probably me  :aok)

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1362 on: June 03, 2009, 09:04:34 AM »
If your going to fly a B-29 all the way up to it's max alt then your need a hobby.



thats why most people don't.  If the bomber does get in AH most will just fly em' the way you see lanc attacks now and it probably won't even be half as bad as you all are making it out to be.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1363 on: June 03, 2009, 09:07:37 AM »
Castle, the B29 would take something like a whole update's worth of development man-hours (i.e. half a dozen planes/remodels' worth).
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1364 on: June 03, 2009, 09:17:47 AM »
And so far that's the only legitimate difficulty I can find with the B-29 is the programming stuff to add it in.  Everything else just sounds like people pussing out of ever having to fight it.