B-29 Super Fortress

[oakranger]

Please tell us what you cannot do with those bombers that you could with a B-29 on any terrain available in AH right now...aside from dropping a nuke or wiping out a large airfield in one pass.

A divers plane set.

[76646]

I just want to see how the thing will handle!

[Volron]

Why add the B-29 now in that case?  It would take HTC a lot of dev time to add the B-29, whereas many of the needed Japanese aircraft could be added in the same time.

I do think people grossly exaggerate the impact it would have on AH.  The people who advocate for it also seem to ignore the resources it would cost to add it.

If the need for another perk bomber is so dire, the Mosquito B.Mk XVI or A-26 would take a fraction of the resources to add.

I didn't say that it should be added just yet, nor am I saying that you said I did.  I whole heartily agree, that other planes should be added first before the B-29 gets factored into AH.  The statement was aimed more toward the line of, "If we were to add it now...", type of thing.  I should have worded it better but was hard pressed for time all of a sudden.  Not paying attention to one's clock on a work day, can make one a little panicky.  My own fault there.    So I apologize if what I meant didn't get through properly.

Beefcake
Most of the counterparts that are in use are either too slow and/or lacks the firepower for certain SEA events.  The other thing is, more realistic plane and tank line ups for SEA events.  I believe that's what some of the folks are trying to get at.  During the Marianas Turkey Shoot Frame 2, we had to use Ki-61's in place for the D4Y Judy.  A horrible substitute seeing as the Ki-61 was not designed to land on carriers and did not carry as much ordinance as the Judy.  It only carries half of what the D4Y can (551 lb vs 1,102 lb).

[gyrene81]

I'm going to ask you the same question.

What exactly is the need for any other fighter in AH? We already have a ton of fighters to do other fighters jobs.

Why do we need a P51H when we have the CHog?
Why do we need a 410 when we have the 110s and Mossie?
Why do we need Panther when we have the Firefly?
Why do we need a Ki43 when we have the Ki84?
Why do we need a Helldiver when we have the SBD?
Why do we need a Judy when we have the Kate & Val?
Why do we need the He111 when we have the Ju88?
etc etc etc

Do you see what I'm getting at? Pretty much every aircraft that is NOT in AH already has an AH counterpart that could do it's job. Does that mean we shouldn't add them because of that? No.

AH needs a perked bomber that can be used for a wider role than the Ar234. However, it doesn't have to be a B29, honestly I would like to see the glass nose A26 with drones. It could fly at what? 400 MPH with a decent gun defense and it could carry 8000lbs of ord.

Well Beefcake, I don't personally see why the AR234 exists in AH...it's as useful as the B-29 would be.

You need to look at the existing plane set and see the imbalances that exist...adding the B-29 is just putting gasoline on the fire...it would be much easier to fill those gaps with loadout options in the hangar to create modification models or make new ones than it would be to model the B-29...but then again, no one really gives a poop that significant aircraft that could and would be used extensively in special events as well as the MAs don't exist, and probably never will...but lets just fill up the boards with "I want the B-29" threads every month.

A divers plane set.

That's not what you can do with it...as in carry large bomb loads at very high alt or deliver a bomb load fast in 1 sector on the map...seriously, do you really need a 60,000lbs bomb load with 3 planes for any map?

[oakranger]

That's not what you can do with it...as in carry large bomb loads at very high alt or deliver a bomb load fast in 1 sector on the map...seriously, do you really need a 60,000lbs bomb load with 3 planes for any map?

Thats why you perk the hell out of it.  Then see how many ppl will up in it. 

[gyrene81]

Thats why you perk the hell out of it.  Then see how many ppl will up in it. 

mmmhmmm...yeah...sure.

Tell me, why haven't you ever used the Ju-88, Stuka or Ki-67? Too slow, too vulnerable maybe not enough payload to do any good in one shot? Beefcake is the same way...as a matter of fact, neither has the OP of this thread.

I'm betting aside from the "cool factor"...those who are wanting the B-29 want to be able to do high alt milk runs and drop a base or town in a single run...nothing more.

[jdbecks]

there are more crucial aircraft that need to be added way before the b29, more Luftwaffe, Russian and Japanese planes for starters.

[5PointOh]

Don't worry guys I'm sure HTC is working on more WWII planes for us...Oh wait, they are working on WWI stuff.

[Motherland]

Do you see what I'm getting at? Pretty much every aircraft that is NOT in AH already has an AH counterpart that could do it's job.

This is exactly why I think that planes should be added with no regard to how they will be used in the MA. Any plane at all that is added will not change gameplay in the MA in the least.

[oakranger]

mmmhmmm...yeah...sure.

Tell me, why haven't you ever used the Ju-88, Stuka or Ki-67? Too slow, too vulnerable maybe not enough payload to do any good in one shot? Beefcake is the same way...as a matter of fact, neither has the OP of this thread.

I'm betting aside from the "cool factor"...those who are wanting the B-29 want to be able to do high alt milk runs and drop a base or town in a single run...nothing more.

how do you know i do not fly them?  How do you know ppl are waiting for the b-29 so they can milk run on bases and town?  What eals are you to used the B-29 for, in a furbal.

[Nemisis]

Lets face it, if we're getting a WW1 arena when the main focus has been WW2 aircraft, then eventually we WILL get a B-29, and theres nothing you can do to stop it. The only thing that will stop it is the demise of Aces High, and i'm SURE none of you want that.

We might not get it for 5 years, but we WILL get it.

[oakranger]

Lets face it, if we're getting a WW1 arena when the main focus has been WW2 aircraft, then eventually we WILL get a B-29, and theres nothing you can do to stop it. The only thing that will stop it is the demise of Aces High, and i'm SURE none of you want that.

We might not get it for 5 years, but we WILL get it.

+1

[Volron]

5PointOh
To be honest, I'm quite excited to see them working on WWI fighters.  I still remember the Red Baron days (DOS game for those who don't know).  I had a blast with that game.  There were a few other WWI games after that, but my DOS machine couldn't handle it and the next computer I got, was far too powerful to run them.  I think the first plane I will take up will either be the Fokker Dr.1 or the Fokker D.VII.

As Nemisis said, "We might not get it for 5 years, but we WILL get it.".  I agree.  The HTC staff will eventually add B-29.

[caldera]

Look at this freakin' thing.  It is too cool not to have.   

Combine the wartime production totals of all the real life aircraft that are perked in this game.
Does that total come close to the number of B-29s that saw combat?  Doubt it.

Griefers will be griefers and tards will be tards.  They don't need perk fighters or bombers to do so.  Though if AH can have the pinnacle of WWII fighters, some of the best tanks (and even uber Essex-class carriers), then it should also have the ultimate heavy bomber. 

[Nemisis]

Hell, you don't see people complaining about the 262, and that think is damn near untouchable. When one is near a base, people avoid it untill it RTB's.