B-29 Super Fortress

[Chalenge]

How about trying to read what I said before? Its not about bombing bases! You bring a big perk ride to a base capture and the first thing that happens when a high con comes in is he jumps YOU! I suggested the B29 be perked high for a reason. Please dont focus on posts as if they are stand-alone topics.

[Iron_Cross]

How about trying to read what I said before? Its not about bombing bases!

No, it's not, it's about how it will be used in game.

You bring a big perk ride to a base capture and the first thing that happens when a high con comes in is he jumps YOU!

Yup, that is what is going to happen, IF someone realizes what is going on, and is high enough to intercept.  Most of the time you'll have a low furball going on between two bases, the darbar is full in the two sectors where the bases are.  Would you notice anything different, until all of a sudden 15k over the furball here come the bombers?  Would you have time to climb  up to them, and intercept them before they have shut down the fighter hangars?  Are you going to sacrifice a good fight, to cap a base at 20k on the off chance bombers might come in and kill the fighter hangars, if so your better than 99% of the people in the game.  It is already happening in the game at present with the bombers we already have.  Why do you want to add to the grief?

[Saxman]

No it doesnt except in the case of the 234 which at times I have trouble killing all three with a P51. Any other bomber in AHII is easily defeated IF you do it right. From what you have said I dont think you do it right at all.

All bomber formations I approach from a position of altitude advantage. Generally I try to set myself up on my initial pass by flying a parallel course to get out ahead of them. Ideally I look for an initial position 2-3k directly above the formation, and again I follow their course until I'm out ahead of them. Once in position I roll in for a high pass. My preference is to make a vertical drop straight down on my target and aim for the wing between the inboard engine and fuselage and pull out before I dive under him. One pass I can light a B-24 on fire. I'll also aim for the cockpit. I generally try to keep within the forward-high arc, where the concentration of firepower is weakest, and also giving me clean shots at the target's cockpit and engines.

It's the recovery phase after each pass wherein lies the problem, and where bomber speed makes a difference. I'm not saying fast bombers are IMPOSSIBLE to fight, but the margin for error shrinks SIGNIFICANTLY. It's why Ki-67s are so difficult to deal with (though the topside 20mm helps).

But I guess I'm just not the ninja master of buff-busting that you are, sinsei.

[Chalenge]

But I guess I'm just not the ninja master of buff-busting that you are, sinsei.

Hopefully your still young enough to get some practice in.  Its 'sensei' by the way there grasshopper.

I aim for the pilots forehead and can kill within 30 rounds fired. Fire is nice but if you leave him burning the noob in the Niki will steal it from you. Snce you just came out of a dive you should be arcing below and forward of the bombers and after gaining 1.5k on them you begin a climb while holding your speed above the bombers top end. If a bomber climbs above 25k I will hold at 25k and trail them in optimum cruise until they come down. They hate that. 

I_C your argument was brought up by Krusty in an anti-buff/anti-formation whine and was defeated soundly. Anytime there is a furball between bases there WILL BE bombers inbound as well. See it recognize it take advantage of it.

[fullmetalbullet]

my tactic for taking out a bomber is to get behind it at about 4000ft above and behind the bomber then dive on it and most likely clip its wing off in one pass but it normaly takes me 2 to 3 trys to clips its wings off, then i pull up after diving under it and speed off to alt, then go in for another pass.

[Saxman]

Any sort of attack in the rear arc against a bomber formation is about the worst situation you can put yourself in, even if coming in high. ESPECIALLY if you're attacking Ki-67s, which have a 20mm cannon in that aft-high position.

[fullmetalbullet]

eh i seem to like it and i only got shot down once in this entire game and that was against an ace and he blind sighted me, but i seem to like to sneek up behind the enemy then stab them in the back.

[Saxman]

Problem is bombers have eyes (and guns) on their back....

 

[NEARY]

Ok seriously this is getting WAY off topic
 
it started as a discusion about how to introduce b-29s, now it is a dbate and is coming ot be a flame war



i don't care about what you idiots think about the matter


the b-29 was the most important bomber by the end of the war
the b-29 deserves to be added but not the n00k
of the thousands of sorties the b-29 did, only 2 were nuclear missions

it would kill frame rate, and ruin the fun for n00k just leave it at that


-NEARY

[glock89]

Ok seriously this is getting WAY off topic
 
it started as a discusion about how to introduce b-29s, now it is a dbate and is coming ot be a flame war



i don't care about what you idiots think about the matter


the b-29 was the most important bomber by the end of the war
the b-29 deserves to be added but not the n00k
of the thousands of sorties the b-29 did, only 2 were nuclear missions

it would kill frame rate, and ruin the fun for n00k just leave it at that


-NEARY

Yes with the nuke it would take the fun out of the game. The B-29 doesn't need to be added now but later on.

[fullmetalbullet]

i was saying put it to a vote but nobody listens to polatics, but i say yes to the B-29 and no to the nuclear bomb.

[glock89]

I say yes to the B-29 but there need to be more planes to be added first American got it bombers what about the rest of us?

[fullmetalbullet]

well the HO-229 would be good or the jap version of the ME-262 and ME-163

[glock89]

well the HO-229 would be good or the jap version of the ME-262 and ME-163

The jap version of the Me-262 didn't have any guns and had the same top speed as the P-51 i think.

[fullmetalbullet]

nope actually it was kinda faster then the german ME-262 and the jap ME-163 was used for kamakaze.