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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1170 on: April 22, 2009, 02:05:20 AM »
Where do you get the 35,000 ceiling for the B-29?

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1171 on: April 22, 2009, 09:42:31 AM »
35k = a round figure that establishes fighter speed merely.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1172 on: April 23, 2009, 01:42:17 AM »
35k = a round figure that establishes fighter speed merely.

But the B-29 could, without much difficulty, fly a bit higher, correct?

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1173 on: April 25, 2009, 01:59:35 PM »
sure, after rolling off all your bombs and spending 2/3 of your fuel I would imagine your max altitude would increase.  In my B-24 the altitude I usually drop at is around 28k. If I were to continue climbing for maby another 20 minutes I could reach over 30K but after making my run and turning for home I usually get up to 34K on the way back.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1174 on: April 25, 2009, 04:43:13 PM »
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1175 on: April 25, 2009, 05:26:04 PM »
sure, after rolling off all your bombs and spending 2/3 of your fuel I would imagine your max altitude would increase.  In my B-24 the altitude I usually drop at is around 28k. If I were to continue climbing for maby another 20 minutes I could reach over 30K but after making my run and turning for home I usually get up to 34K on the way back.

No, even WITH the bomb load the B-29 was known not only for it's speed, but for it's alt. cap. Its alt. cap. was significantly higher than the B-17 IIRC, which caps at 35,500 ft. (IRL) and 35,750 ft. (In game)

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1176 on: April 25, 2009, 05:38:28 PM »
No, even WITH the bomb load the B-29 was known not only for it's speed, but for it's alt. cap. Its alt. cap. was significantly higher than the B-17 IIRC, which caps at 35,500 ft. (IRL) and 35,750 ft. (In game)

From my Info cards (Part of a WWII History box set) this is what I have:

B-17 Service ceiling: 35,000 Feet
B-24 Service ceiling: 28,000 Feet
B-29 Service Ceiling: 33,600 Feet
B-26 Service Ceiling: 19,800 Feet

Either the people would made these cards are idiots, or there is a misinformation somewhere.  I would be more than happy to have someone with the correct (if these are wrong) info to fix these.  The b-26 alt sounds way off, but I have no idea honestly. :salute


Edit, had B24/17 mixed up.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1177 on: April 25, 2009, 05:48:12 PM »
From my Info cards (Part of a WWII History box set) this is what I have:

B-17 Service ceiling: 35,000 Feet
B-24 Service ceiling: 28,000 Feet
B-29 Service Ceiling: 33,600 Feet
B-26 Service Ceiling: 19,800 Feet

Either the people would made these cards are idiots, or there is a misinformation somewhere.  I would be more than happy to have someone with the correct (if these are wrong) info to fix these.  The b-26 alt sounds way off, but I have no idea honestly. :salute


Edit, had B24/17 mixed up.

B-17 by FlyPast as well as Flying Fortress: an Illustrated History has the B-17G at 35,500, just to nit-pick.

The B-29 having a lower service ceiling really doesn't sound right, but in all honesty I don't have any sources on it.

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1178 on: April 25, 2009, 09:00:01 PM »
a quick google of "b29 service ceiling" comes up with 31 to 33
b26 21 to 25
b 17 consistent 35's
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1179 on: April 25, 2009, 09:07:03 PM »
These are all the specs for the B-29 I got of the Wiki page.  It includes speed, altitude, armament ect.   


Specifications (B-29)
 

General characteristics

Crew: 11: (A/C)Airplane Commander, Pilot, flight engineer (a rated pilot),[21][22]. bombardier, navigator, radio operator, radar operator, blister gunners (two), CFC upper gunner, and tail gunner
Length: 99 ft 0 in (30.2 m)
Wingspan: 141 ft 3 in (43.1 m)
Height: 29 ft 7 in (8.5 m)
Wing area: 1,736 ft² (161.3 m²)
Empty weight: 74,500 lb (33,800 kg)
Loaded weight: 120,000 lb (54,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 133,500 lb (60,560 kg -- 135,000 lb plus combat load (142,000 lb on record))
Powerplant: 4× Wright R-3350-23 and 23A turbosupercharged radial engines, 2,200 hp (1,640 kW) each
* Zero-lift drag coefficient: 0.0241
Drag area: 41.16 ft² (3.82 m²)
Aspect ratio: 11.50


Performance

Maximum speed: 357 mph (310 knots, 574 km/h)
Cruise speed: 220 mph (190 knots, 350 km/h)
Stall speed: 105 mph (91 knots, 170 km/h)
Combat range: 3,250 mi (2,820 nm, 5,230 km)
Ferry range: 5,600 mi (4,900 nm, 9,000 km)
Service ceiling: 33,600 ft (10,200 m)
Rate of climb: 900 ft/min (4.6 m/s)
Wing loading: 69.12 lb/ft² (337 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.073 hp/lb (121 W/kg)
Lift-to-drag ratio: 16.8


Armament


Guns:
10× .50 in (12.7 mm) caliber Browning M2/ANs in remote controlled turrets
2 x .50 in and 1× 20 mm M2 cannon in tail position 
B-29B-BW - All armament and sighting equipment removed except for tail position; initially 2 x .50 in M2/AN and 1× 20 mm M2 cannon, later 3 x 2 x .50 in M2/AN with APG-15 gun-laying radar fitted as standard.

Bombs:
20,000 lb (9,000 kg) standard loadout, could be modified to externally carry two 22,000 lb (10,000 kg) T-14 "Earthquake" bombs.
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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1180 on: April 27, 2009, 10:02:55 AM »
Does this fit into the existing AH Bomber Hangar?  Since we were schooled earlier that the bomber has to fit into the hangar as some sort of HTC rule?    :rofl

If it does not fit into the hangar then why not make it a RUNWAY SPAWN only bomber making it even more vulnerable so that all the ANTI B29 Dweebs have that much more for the Vulchy Perkies? HMMM?  What about that?   :rofl

Hey!  I REALLY like the bomb bay door opening at a 15k minimum idea!  GREAT IDEA.  Then we can get certain stuka lancs out of the as it was put "simulation".  VERY GOOD POINT.  Then bombers would be used a little more like they are supposed to be used for. 

I would only change one thing.  I would say that the medium and light bombers should still be able to open their doors at lower alts.  But still be limited.  Say to 5,000 feet AGL.  Above ground level as it were.

GREAT POINT!

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1181 on: April 28, 2009, 01:28:17 AM »
Does this fit into the existing AH Bomber Hangar?  Since we were schooled earlier that the bomber has to fit into the hangar as some sort of HTC rule?    :rofl

If it does not fit into the hangar then why not make it a RUNWAY SPAWN only bomber making it even more vulnerable so that all the ANTI B29 Dweebs have that much more for the Vulchy Perkies? HMMM?  What about that?   :rofl

Hey!  I REALLY like the bomb bay door opening at a 15k minimum idea!  GREAT IDEA.  Then we can get certain stuka lancs out of the as it was put "simulation".  VERY GOOD POINT.  Then bombers would be used a little more like they are supposed to be used for. 

I would only change one thing.  I would say that the medium and light bombers should still be able to open their doors at lower alts.  But still be limited.  Say to 5,000 feet AGL.  Above ground level as it were.

GREAT POINT!

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And if we want to recreate Ploesti?


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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1182 on: April 28, 2009, 07:08:52 AM »
And if we want to recreate Ploesti?

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Climb to 15k.  Open Bomb Bay doors.  Dive to the deck.


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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1183 on: April 29, 2009, 02:17:26 AM »
Climb to 15k.  Open Bomb Bay doors.  Dive to the deck.


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No. Weren't you there when Solar, myself and a few of the others took B-24s NOE to bomb a fuel factory that time?

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Re: B-29 Super Fortress
« Reply #1184 on: May 01, 2009, 10:33:02 AM »
i say add it no nook perked 600 and it should only be flown from a few fields, although the concept of the ice carrier that can carry B-29s i forget where i heard it, but it was an idea by a great man then he went insane trying to make it possible lol
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