B-29 Super Fortress

[Serenity]

thats the reason why it could be added. . .and the reason people don't realize that not many people are going to spend 45 mins getting to these massive altitudes when they can just replane and fly a second bomber run in the same time.  I.e. In internet airplanes, people are lazy first.

But see, the guys who can afford a B-29 to begin with WILL climb to those altitudes. And THEN, you will see why the B-29 shouldn't be added. If we ever get one, I am taking myself and Overlag on a pwnage sortie. One continuous pork-flight at 35k, and the whines on 200 will only back up the sentiment that we should NOT have this bomber until we have something that can catch it at altitude.

[dev1ant]

I really don't see any reason to ever add the B-29.  It's an awful idea that will only further reduce the quality of gameplay, at least for those us who still enjoying fighting in this game.

[Plazus]

But see, the guys who can afford a B-29 to begin with WILL climb to those altitudes. And THEN, you will see why the B-29 shouldn't be added. If we ever get one, I am taking myself and Overlag on a pwnage sortie. One continuous pork-flight at 35k, and the whines on 200 will only back up the sentiment that we should NOT have this bomber until we have something that can catch it at altitude.

There are a few planes that are capable of catching a B29 at altitude:

1. P-47N
2. ME-262
3. ME-163
4. P-51 B&D
5. TA-152

I put the P-47N at the top of the list because that plane was specifically designed to escort the B-29. Even though it is prop-driven, it has a supercharger and is more than capable of keeping up with it. Then follows the two German jets. They both have outstanding speeds at 35k+. The P-51s may be able to stick with the B-29, as well. Lastly, the TA-152 is able to keep up with the B-29 due to its aerodynamics. Its wings are long and slender, which make it perfect for high altitudes.

Given that the B-29 is accepted into the game, I believe that the main threats are those five planes listed above. They all have outstanding high altitude performance and has sufficient enough firepower to knock a B-29 down to chinatown. The trick is, being able to detect a B-29 beforehand so that these planes have enough time to get to altitude and engage the bomber before it does any serious damage.

[Rich46yo]

The B-29 was part of the reason the Ta-152 was developed as well. German Intel. had no problem finding out about the new super-bomber the Yanks were building and part of the response was the Ta-152.

Dont count out the Spit-14 either. While it has fairly short legs it makes up for it with an obscene climb rate and a 450 mph top speed at Alt. Nor would I hesitate to take a F4U-4 up to 30 k either.

[Beefcake]

The one thing I want to know is why does everyone think that all buff pilots are going to fly the B29 at 35k? I can tell you that even if I have to pay 200 perks per plane (600 for formation) then I'm only going to fly it at 20-25k as it has a decent defense. Everyone always cries that "oh no we shouldn't add that aircraft because it might fly high!". Let me ask you, how many 25-30k bombers do you encounter every night in MA that are ACTUALLY at 25+K? Another thing is this, for those of you that say the B29 should only be able to take off from Me163 fields then you can bet all B29's will be in the stratosphere. Why? If I had to fly 3 hours to get to target then I'm sure as hell going to climb as high as I can get. If the B29 were to be added as just a perk bomber that can take off from any field I doubt most of them would be seen above 25k. Most people just don't have the time or patience to fly that long or that high.

Now onto game breaking balance. The worst a B29 would be able to do is drop the hangers at a field, and guess what, if he's by himself then at best he's only going to knock out FH's for about 5 minutes because he can't hit them all in one pass. Besides the FH's the worst a B29 can do is knock down a bunch of strat, and I think most of us will agree that strat is next to worthless in it's current state.

In my opinion the B29 should be in Aces High as an ultimate perk bomber, but I will also agree that there are bombers that should be added in before it.

[Plazus]

The one thing I want to know is why does everyone think that all buff pilots are going to fly the B29 at 35k? I can tell you that even if I have to pay 200 perks per plane (600 for formation) then I'm only going to fly it at 20-25k as it has a decent defense. Everyone always cries that "oh no we shouldn't add that aircraft because it might fly high!". Let me ask you, how many 25-30k bombers do you encounter every night in MA that are ACTUALLY at 25+K? Another thing is this, for those of you that say the B29 should only be able to take off from Me163 fields then you can bet all B29's will be in the stratosphere. Why? If I had to fly 3 hours to get to target then I'm sure as hell going to climb as high as I can get. If the B29 were to be added as just a perk bomber that can take off from any field I doubt most of them would be seen above 25k. Most people just don't have the time or patience to fly that long or that high.

Now onto game breaking balance. The worst a B29 would be able to do is drop the hangers at a field, and guess what, if he's by himself then at best he's only going to knock out FH's for about 5 minutes because he can't hit them all in one pass. Besides the FH's the worst a B29 can do is knock down a bunch of strat, and I think most of us will agree that strat is next to worthless in it's current state.

In my opinion the B29 should be in Aces High as an ultimate perk bomber, but I will also agree that there are bombers that should be added in before it.

I salute to that. Very good points! 

[Ack-Ack]

There are a few planes that are capable of catching a B29 at altitude:

1. P-47N
2. ME-262
3. ME-163
4. P-51 B&D
5. TA-152

I put the P-47N at the top of the list because that plane was specifically designed to escort the B-29. Even though it is prop-driven, it has a supercharger and is more than capable of keeping up with it. Then follows the two German jets. They both have outstanding speeds at 35k+. The P-51s may be able to stick with the B-29, as well. Lastly, the TA-152 is able to keep up with the B-29 due to its aerodynamics. Its wings are long and slender, which make it perfect for high altitudes.

TA-152 should be able to do more than just keep up with the B-29 at 35,000ft.  The Ta 152H was capable of speeds up to 472mph at 41,000ft using the GM-1 boost (is this modeled in AH?).

[Castle51]

There are a few planes that are capable of catching a B29 at altitude:

1. P-47N
2. ME-262
3. ME-163
4. P-51 B&D
5. TA-152

dont forget the P-38.  I've got a clip of one that chased me all the way up to 37k

[Kazaa]

The idea is to stop the B29 from getting to those alts, hell wasn't it even impossible  to bomb accurately at those alts anyway?

[Ack-Ack]

The idea is to stop the B29 from getting to those alts, hell wasn't it even impossible  to bomb accurately at those alts anyway?

Yeah, pretty much and throw the Gulf Stream into the mix and you can see why LeMay had the bombers fly lower over Tokyo.


ack-ack

[Beefcake]

I still ask the question, why the heck would anyone try to fly beyond 40k? Boredom? Come on guys, you know most people will never fly it that high.

Also Kazaa has a point, you cannot bomb hangers or any other "single" target from high alt without dropping alot of ord on it. I know from experience that the random bomb drift will cause the bombs to separate so much that you'll have to drop 3-4 1kers just kill the hanger. You can only accurately bomb strats or towns from that height due to the dense amount of buildings.

[Kazaa]

Introduce the B-29 with formations, it shouldn’t cost a stupid amount of perks either. At the end of the day it’s still a bomber and as such, liable of being totally owned by the smaller and more moveable fighters.

[Serenity]

I still ask the question, why the heck would anyone try to fly beyond 40k? Boredom? Come on guys, you know most people will never fly it that high.

Also Kazaa has a point, you cannot bomb hangers or any other "single" target from high alt without dropping alot of ord on it. I know from experience that the random bomb drift will cause the bombs to separate so much that you'll have to drop 3-4 1kers just kill the hanger. You can only accurately bomb strats or towns from that height due to the dense amount of buildings.

I like to bomb that high just because I can. And it is possible to drop 4 x 500lbers on hangars, as long as you can reference exactly where on the field they are (That's why I keep my bomber-binder handy). It's not easy, and not common, but it is possible.

[Castle51]

I'm the same.  I do B-17 runs and drop all the way from 33k sometimes.  I will also say that the majority of my runs are against strats because to me, an airfield isn't exactly a target rich environment and yes, from that altitude your accuracy does diminish a little.

    Another thing I have to bring up though is that even with my B-17 or B-24 flying at 30k I hardly see anyone try to stop me from making my hit.  Although I have seen fighters occasionally come up to get me, it only happens about 1/8 of the missions I fly and they always reach me after I've rolled my bombs.  So what I'm wondering is why are you worrying about not being able to shoot down a B-29 when hardly anybody will even try to successfully intercept a high alt bomber already in the game?  I mean at least try first and then complain when you fail.

[Nemisis]

I have tried and I have failed, I serisouly have stalkers; That is why I fly the B26 from different bases or an A20G because I can actually kill some of my stalkers in that thing, or when I have it I will fly the Ar234. And, I am all for the B29 but even I wouldn't fly it up that high unless you had to fly it only from large airfields and you had taken 1/4 of the bases in the enemy's sector and I am a major alt monkey, even for bombers. EVEN THEN I wouldn't fly it all the time as it wouldn't be WORTH the time it takes to fly it out and back so you don't loose you perks; I would rather fly the Ar 234 multiple times as a low alt. tac. bomber.