Keep on shooting at those 'copters

[Makarov9]

All cities have this criminal/hoodlum element. They are mostly drug addicts and are desperate. This is to be expected and hopefully they will be taken care of so that the saving of good people can continue.

[Wotan]

I just caught a news brief on the radio and  some of the volunteer medical folk had to brought with armed escort.

Some of the rescue efforts (going out searching for folks) had to be postponed because they were being shot at as well.

It's pretty ridiculous if true...

[straffo]

Use the right tool for the job :

[RTR]

This is indicative of human behaviour. There is always a few less evolved folks making the headlines in any disaster situation.

Pretty sad, but not geographically motivated. Happens everywhere in every type of society.

What makes it really dumb is that these people  (term used loosely) are taking things, but really have nowhere to use them or keep them. What good is a 27 inch tv when you have no electricity or an above water living room to sit and watch in?

As for gunships.....send'em in.

RTR

[Lazerus]

Shoot back. They will stop or lose.

When we had a looting problem here the chief of police publicly announced that they didn't have room for any more looters and that he had instructed his cops to just beat the hell out of anyone caught looting. Word got around pretty quick, problem ended in a day or so. A guy that went to my highschool got shot in the rump running from a store he got caught stealing from. He kept going for about a block before he went back and asked for help.

Rummaging for food and water in that situation is understandable. The wholesale thievery that's going on is expected, but abhorrent. Firing on rescue workers is, in my mind at least, grounds for responding with overwhelming and deadly force.

[GtoRA2]

If you are a crewman on the chopper and get hit do you get a purple heart?

[Gunthr]

So when people are in life distress and shoot rescue workers in despiration for their lives and trying to get attention, now people are waiting to see them get killed on the next COPS episode.

Uh oh..

I won't name names, but whoever wrote this is ignorant.  

The shooting of the helos in this case is no different than the incidents of shooting airplanes and helicopters that take place over wooded areas during every deer hunting season...   they shoot because they can.

The looting of jewelry, watches and electronics is part of the same mentality... they will loot because they can.

The people who do these things are not "desperate people," they are psychopaths who are most often found in our jails and prisons. They are the first to emerge in any disaster which  causes the breakdown of society, so the Mad Max post isn't that far off...

The fact is, "society" exists in order to put controls on these people.  When society breaks down, these knuckleheads are the first to emerge.

[Simaril]

Lazs --

Not intended as a troll, but as a pointeed question --

Does this kind of behaviour in any way conflict with anarchism? Or the right to keep and bear full automatic weapons?



BTW I am NOT a gun control advocate

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Simaril
Lazs --

Does this kind of behaviour in any way conflict with anarchism? Or the right to keep and bear full automatic weapons?

Not trying to hedge in on Lazs territory, but that behaviour doesn't conflict with anarchism, it emulates it.

The right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with the illegal actions of the thugs shooting at rescue workers other than that it affords people the opportunity to protect themselves , their families and whatever meager possesions they may have from lawless individuals with no respect for anything but their own sociopathic tendencies.

Like the man said, it should be illegal to shoot at helocopters.

[Hangtime]

Simaril, take a gun course. Learn how to handle a weapon safely, confidently. Learn the difference between an automatic and a semi-auto. Educate yourself by direct exposure to the weapons and the folks that understand the balance between capability and need.

It'll open you eyes. And you'll sleep better, even without owning a weapon.

[Siaf__csf]

I thought that maybe people were shooting the rescue copters because they were rescuing people from the dome, not from the stranded tree or rooftop.

But as I was pointed, it's very easy for a psycho to get a weapon down there so there's plenty of potential.

[Eagler]

some are getting restless as they are missing Jerry Springer, didn't get their last welfare check and can't find the crackman ...

[BTAirsol]

This is what happens when evacuation is not folowed by all. Their are 2 types of people that stay, those that have no means to leave, and then there are those who have a very low IQ. Who do you think is doing the shooting and looting? At some point though when people get hungry and thirsty and it means survival, they do what they have to do to get food, but not at the expense of shooting the hand that feeds you.

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by thrila
more info
According to this a member of the national guard has been shot too.

didn't get alot of news yesterday, and the thread got locked but:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050831/ap_on_re_us/katrina_looting_hk1

snippets:

Looters also chased down a state police truck full of food. The New Orleans police chief ran off looters while city officials themselves were commandeering equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use.

New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street.

AND

Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout. The officer was expected to survive.

[T0J0]

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Out of the ruins
Out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistake this time
We are the children
the last generation
We are the ones they left behind
And I wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Superdome

Looking for something we can rely on
There's got to be something better out there
Love and compassion, their day is coming
All else are castles built in the air
And I wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains
All the children say

We don't need another katrina
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Superdome

What do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark
Give it all or nothing