Author Topic: Gores concession speech: Bitter? Or Noble? (Read 2906 times)

CavemanJ · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2000, 12:28:00 AM »

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Orignally said by Al Gore:
This has been an extraordinary election. But in one of God’s unforeseen paths, this belatedly broken impasse can point us all to a new common ground, for its very closeness can serve to remind us that we are one people with a shared history and a shared destiny.
Indeed, that history gives us many examples of contests as hotly debated, as fiercely fought, with their own challenges to the popular will.

A slight jab about Bush not winning the popular vote maybe?

Raub I think you're right about 2004. When it comes time for presidential nominations the sitting vice president has an advantage over all other comers, in that for the party to just toss him is almost like admitting they made a mistake in supporting him on the ticket before. It'll be interesting when the primaries come around again I think.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2000, 02:03:00 AM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
The dissapointment was just in loosing.. or with the decision that caused the loss? Interesting that he didn't specify. Your first statement wasn't as incorrect as you'd like to believe.

Again, you're reading into this WAY too much. Of course he's disappointed at the decision AND at losing the election. Wouldn't you be? However, that's not what he stated explicitly in the speech. You were misquoting him and attributing "jabs" that simply weren't there. I was correcting you.

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And you don't "become" president.. you are elected president.

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LOL. Yes, you DO become the president. You do so by winning the election. How many times do I have to say this? That you could possibly construe this choice of words as an attack on Bush is baffling.

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He didn't congradulate him on winning the election. As a matter of fact.. he never really mentions a victory of any kind. He refers to "the constest through which we just passed", "This has been an extraordinary election" and "the unusual nature of this election".

It HAS been an extraordinary election... unusual as well. Why do you feel that Gore needed to specifically mention Bush's "victory?" A rose by any other name should smell so sweet. In as many words, this is exactly what Gore did.

-- Todd/DMF

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Eagler · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2000, 05:04:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler:
gore will mention:
1. he won the popular vote
2. that all votes were not counted
3. half bellybutton mention something about coming together behind Bush, even though he, gore, won the popular vote & reiterate the fact he feels all the votes were not counted - again (popular vote theme will be mentioned more than a couple of times)

It'll be a bunch of crap and will interrupt something a hell of a lot more interesting - the next episode of "The $treet".

Eagler

I stand corrected. The speech was a great concession speech. He bowed out pretty gracefully.

Eagler

Kieren · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2000, 07:59:00 AM »

Rumors are already circulating about 2004 for the Dems- Hillary Clinton and Bob Kerry are the two names I have seen most prevalently. One of them would probably be ok.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2000, 08:02:00 AM »

I think this country has seen enough Clintons.

AKDejaVu:

If the lifestyle of the underprivileged does not improve.. it is because gore wasn't there to help them.

BS..Clinton and Gore have been in the White house for 8 years and they haven't done much to change the "lifestyle of the underprivileged" so what makes you think 4 more years would be any different?

Eagler · « **Reply #35 on:** December 15, 2000, 08:16:00 AM »

Democrats in 2004:

Hillary as Pres
goron as vp
jesse love muffin as sec of state

Otherwise know as Larry, Moe and Curly...

Eagler

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2000, 09:09:00 AM »

Mighty1, I'm not saying they would have done any better. But, if things get worse... they have a scapegoat. That is the one thing Gore said that really irritated me. Other than that, it was a pretty decent speach.

BTW.. anyone notice that many Dem politicians are saying that Bush didn't really win the election... he was given it? Wow... guess I just read too much into Gore's speech eh?... or... more to the point what I didn't see in his speech.

AKDejaVu

Nash · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2000, 10:10:00 AM »

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BS..Clinton and Gore have been in the White house for 8 years and they haven't done much to change the "lifestyle of the underprivileged" so what makes you think 4 more years would be any different? - Mighty

I've heard that a few times now... Do you mind expanding on that? What makes you say this?

Mighty1 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2000, 10:34:00 AM »

Maybe you can tell me what they have done.

I say that because I really haven't seen them do anything for the so called "underprivilege".

Nash · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2000, 10:43:00 AM »

Ah... great. You toss it out there, yet I gotta go and back up why I would question that. Fine.

Minority homeownership rates were the highest ever recorded.

The child poverty rate had the biggest 5-year drop in nearly 30 years (1965-1970). For African American children poverty is the lowest on record; for Hispanic children it is the lowest since 1980.

The largest welfare caseload decline in history, and the lowest number of people on welfare since 1969.

Unemployment rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans are both at historic lows, while the unemployment rate for women is the lowest since 1953.

Uhm...god... I could go on and on...

Udie · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »

Nothing can be done to help the poor people until they decide to help themselves. I've seen it too many times in my young life to believe otherwise. Every succesful African-American person I know, Rep or Dem, all say the same thing. Their lives never got better until they got off wellfare (the ones that were on it) and started to take care of things for themselves.

Ever heard the saying "If you want something done right, do it yourself" Well why don't people use that in their own lives?

udie

Nash · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2000, 10:49:00 AM »

The percentage of African American high school graduates enrolling in college increased from 48 percent in 1992 to 59 percent in 1997 -- the highest number ever.

Kieren · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2000, 11:24:00 AM »

Got comparable rates for whites? Just curious, we did have some economic good times there, and I think looking at only one segment of the population can be misleading.

Nash · « **Reply #43 on:** December 15, 2000, 11:54:00 AM »

Which issue Kieren - whites and education?

I'm telling you guys... You can win the bickering match by shouting the loudest, but you just aint gonna win on the issues. Go ahead and try.

Eagler · « **Reply #44 on:** December 15, 2000, 12:05:00 PM »

"The child poverty rate had the biggest 5-year drop in nearly 30 years (1965-1970). For African American children poverty is the lowest on record; for Hispanic children it is the lowest since 1980.

The largest welfare caseload decline in history, and the lowest number of people on welfare since 1969.

Unemployment rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans are both at historic lows, while the unemployment rate for women is the lowest since 1953."

Don't know about the rest of the country but here in FL, laws were past to limit welfare payments to those capable of working, they were forced to find a job.. oh yeah, mean ole Republicans pushed that through.

Eagler