Author Topic: London suicider Mohammed Sidique Khan tells us whats up (Read 1625 times)

Yeager · « **on:** September 03, 2005, 09:44:00 AM »

"I'm going to keep this short, because it's all been said before and our words have no impact upon you. Therefore, I am going to talk in a language that you understand. Our words are dead until we give them life with our blood.

I'm sure by now the media has painted a suitable picture of me. Its predictable propaganda machine, naturally, will try to put a spin on things to suit the government and to scare the masses and to conform to their power and wealth-obsessed agendas.

I and thousands like me have forsaken everything for what we believe. Our driving motivation doesn't come from tangible commodities that this world has to offer. Our religion is Islam, obedience to the one true god, Allah, and follow in the footsteps of the final prophet and messenger, Mohammed.

Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world and your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters.

Until we feel secure, you will be our targets, and until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people, we will not stop this fight. We are at war, and I am a soldier. Now, you too will taste the reality of this situation."
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Thoughts?

lazs2 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2005, 09:50:29 AM »

I could respect his opinion and deeds more if he only attacked government instalations and soldiers.

lazs

Yeager · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2005, 09:54:59 AM »

yeah but he has a salient point. In our society the civilian is in charge of the soldier by proxy. We elect our leaders and we are being held responsible. I am totally cool with that. I understand how this works. I just hope we can avoid a premature death as species.

lazs2 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2005, 10:03:13 AM »

Nope....

Ok... then even so.....Let's leave the moral part out of it... His views make no sense.

Even if we (the people) did have half the control over government that he and you believe... he assumes that citizens dieing has any effect on the guys running the government... the government doesn't care how many citizens die so long as it doesn't effect them.

Do you think gun contrrol laws are pushed to stop harm from coming to citizens? A .50 caliber is banned because it will penetrate an armored limo or hi tech equipment... Does anyone you know drive around in an armored limo?

Citizens being killed will simply give government more power.... the weak and stupid will plead with the government to "do something" even if it means throwing out the bill of rights...

Nope... killing civilians does not help his cause. He should be killing officials and killing their toys. His friends and family being killed made him what he is.... what does he think he is creating when he kills ours?

lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2005, 10:06:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
yeah but he has a salient point. In our society the civilian is in charge of the soldier by proxy. We elect our leaders and we are being held responsible. I am totally cool with that. I understand how this works. I just hope we can avoid a premature death as species.

Its the path of least resistence. Its easy to gain access to the general public, therefore it is a chicken-chit cop out. Its also NOT effective except in the case of Spain.

Yeager · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2005, 10:18:29 AM »

I agree with you to a point lazs. But I dont put nearly the seperation between the elected and the electors as you do. I vote and I take responsibility for the part I perform in shaping my city, county, state and federal governments. It dont always go my way either.......but I live by it and I guess....might die by it as well.

Also, these guys struggle with tactics and technology. They get their butts handed to em every time they try and attack the government or military (minus IEDs of course, very effective tactic there). They are killing womem and children because they are easy to kill and killing innocents has a powerful impact on our society (example: we might choose to elect more surrender prone liberals to stop the senseless killing).

Bottom line is one day these islamofacists will take it one step too far and get several hundred million people killed in a series of bright burning flashes, mostly mulsims Im afraid.

agreed rip

Skydancer · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2005, 11:52:33 AM »

He was a not very nice stupid person I think!

"His people?" I wonder do the Iraqis realy care about him or see him as one of "their people"? Or the Paslistinians. He was living a pretty good life courtesy of our little Island and he chose to go to war on the country that nutured him. Bit like biteing the hand that feeds you. He and anyone else who wants to go and fight for "their people"

ought to do just that. Go there, hand over passport on the way out of the country to be torn up and never reinstated. Then he can go and be with "his people"

Bumhole!:mad:

Jackal1 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:00:18 PM »

Translation.
He desires for countries training and promoting terrorsit groups to be left alone to gain power, strength, numbers and finances to a point to where they can attack around the globe at will. These pesky interuptions are really troubling to "His People".
Dream on sweet cheeks.

Thrawn · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:02:58 PM »

Source?

Skydancer · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:05:45 PM »

Jackal1 you need a new English / American dictionary. Your tranlation is well out mate.

Blooz · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:07:56 PM »

I say, "Bring it on!"

My team is gonna wipe the floor with your team.

Yeager · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:18:37 PM »

here is the source article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/02/london.tape.cia/index.html

Jackal1 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:19:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Jackal1 you need a new English / American dictionary. Your tranlation is well out mate.

Sure it is Skylilter.............if you have your head buried in the sand while your fingers are in your ears.............or some other location.

lazs2 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:23:17 PM »

yeager... I can't think of any government on this planet that wouldn't secretly welcome 'terrorist" attacks so long as they only targeted citizens. The attacks only strengthen governments power and control.

It would be dead simple for the "terrorists" to attack any nations police forces. Walk into a police station wearing explosives.... shoot police cars or politicians cars with sniper rifles... crash a priovate plane or truck full of explosives into any lightly defended state capitol during it's law making payoff sessions.... etc etc.

Turn in someone for drugs or terrorism or firearms violations and then when the ninjas get there... blow the place sky high and snipe at the survivors....

Blowing up civilians is just lazy and stupid.... the only reason they do it is because they can't get any bright or skilled people to go for the 75 virgins in paradise line.

lazs

Skydancer · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2005, 12:23:59 PM »

Gosh you are rude! aren't you Jackal1?

Lazs are you realy advocating terrorists killing police officers etc. Sounds dangerously like it!