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Offline airbumba

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2005, 10:43:01 PM »
US Coast Guard rocks!!
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2005, 02:02:50 AM »
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Maybe it's too soon to ask such things, but you have to wonder what the local government was doing about this. They knew that a hurricane surge was probable years ago.

Anyway... have a look.

Linky

This page is also interesting.






...and NO, you don't get to blame Bush. The states have a responsibility to their own citizens.


Spot on Sandy.

Also, it was pretty good common knowledge that the levees would sustain a Cat. 3 hurricane.  it was a feat of engineering that ONLY 3 of them gave way.  

The pisser about Katrina was this.  The Storm was always a "High 4 - Low 5 Hurricane".  But something very rare (and thus unfortunate) happened, the Storm Surge was STILL Category 5 strength even though the storm was downgraded to a 4.

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2005, 02:31:53 AM »
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We all need to get serious about limiting carbon emmisions and real strategy needs to be put in place now to cope with the eventual disasters that are bound to happen.


I'd ask you WTF you are talking about, but I'm afraid you'd answer.

It's unfortunate that some are politicising this event.

If you want to discuss the theory of human induced global warming, start another thread.

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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2005, 02:50:49 AM »
2 words ...




"Fill dirt "



And thats all I have to say about that.
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2005, 02:54:33 AM »
Well if you establish a city below sea level, by a large body of water, you are asking for trouble.  Period.  It may be an old city but that doesn't mean you couldn't move away from it.  Bulldoze and start over.
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2005, 07:00:19 AM »
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I'd ask you WTF you are talking about, but I'm afraid you'd answer.

 


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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2005, 10:42:46 AM »
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US Coast Guard rocks!!


Thats for sure, it was refreshing to see them get back to what should be their primary mission...SAR, they were first in and nobody does it better!!!

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2005, 01:21:19 PM »
How is talking about the environment politicising? just wondering!

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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2005, 12:02:00 AM »
Back from Vacation ( along the new waterfront property in Salt Lake I might Add) and I just had to chime in here.

Alot of speculation here.  How many of you  chiming in have spent  years on a planning commission in a flood plain?  None?  Ok, well then I might have a different perspective.  I have.

West Sacramento.  We have a 200 year MINIMUM levee system.  It increases but there is a minimum standard.  Downtown Sacramento has Less than our city, but that's a different (and funnier) story.

As we built our general plan, we strived to make sure that we understood the inherent flood risks, and repercussions of developing over 7,000 acres in between the Sacramento River and Deep Water Channel.  A flood hazard.  Our development plans Mandated a flood improvement system and secondary egress routes prior to any development.  

Mind you, NO is Years Older than our tiny little community, but we had the will to tell the developers that there would be No building without the protection that would be required.  We didn't Want the development, but if it was coming, it had conditions.

NO didn't.  Plain and simple.  They have created a welfare dependant society with a weak leadership that has done nothing but create a "whoa is me" midset and "I am owed" mentality.  They were short sighted, spending several generations of leadership staying in power instead of leading.

It is pathetic to know that basic common sense did not tell this LOCAL administration, and past generations, that building 12 feet BELOW Sea Level at the foot of a major river would be a Bad Idea.  I have read their Hurricane Emergency Egresss Plan and it Clearly States that the evac of the city is dependant on Personal Vehicles.  The leadership in NO is At Fault if anyone is inclined to point a finger.  We, at the City Level, are tasked with the development and Protection of the citizens,  we don't look the other way, then blame WhatEver administration is in Federal Office at the time.  That is Lame, Cowardice, and in total breach of their charter as a city or State.

It is Beyond appaling to see these nimrods blaming anyone.  Be it the idiots who failed to heed over a WEEKS warning to Leave ( a Days walk would have given them dry land, forget the "didn't have gas" BS) and the Governor who Failed to Plan for or allow development with No Improvements who is now trying to  create a Racist slant to the Feds not stepping in to do HIS fuggin job.

This is the Extreme Left failing to have a clue.  I have the utmost respect for many Democrats, but this mindset of It's Someone Elses Fault is going to take the NO disaster and magnify it 10 fold.

A hurricane is coming, Run, run now, get the hell out of there.  If you chose to stay, don't even Think about blaming anyone except your Stupid Idiotic Brain for your problems now.  There are No Roads, No Rail, No Fuel and Morons are shooting at the ONLY ones who are trying to get in.  What, you aren't getting your butt saved Fast Enough??

(Kicks soapbox and walks away shaking head)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2005, 12:05:05 AM by ROC »
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