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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: September 12, 2005, 07:41:27 PM »
I really liked what he had to say today:  (paraphrase)

No one goes to a game to see an umpire they go for the players.  Judges are Umps, we don't make the rules we uphold them and make sure they're followed.  We call balls and strikes, not bat and throw pitches.


Sounds like a good canidate to me.

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 07:53:07 PM »
And the democratic rebuttle:

    In their opening remarks, the two top Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee invoked the tragedy as a reminder of the gap between rich and poor and the need for a Supreme Court that wants to close that gap.
    "Today, the devastation, despair facing millions of our fellow Americans in the Gulf region is a tragic reminder of why we have a federal government, why it's critical that our government be responsive," said Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, Vermont Democrat and ranking minority member of the panel.
    "We need the federal government for our protection and security, to cast a lifeline to those in distress, to mobilize better resources beyond the ability of any state and local government -- all of this for the common good."
    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat, said lessons should be learned from the hurricane.
    "The powerful winds and flood waters of Katrina tore away the mask that has hidden from public view the many Americans who are left out and left behind," he said. "As one nation under God, we cannot continue to ignore the injustice, the inequality and the gross disparities that exist in our society."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050912-031431-6476r.htm
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Re: Judge Roberts Comments
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 08:23:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I really liked what he had to say today:  (paraphrase)

No one goes to a game to see an umpire they go for the players.  Judges are Umps, we don't make the rules we uphold them and make sure they're followed.  We call balls and strikes, not bat and throw pitches.


Sounds like a good canidate to me.


I heard the speech on the radio. At the end, I couldn't remember a single thing he said. All in all, it was a "safe" speech.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2005, 09:38:10 PM »
Every umpire's gotta different strike zone.

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2005, 09:47:25 PM »
Blah blah blah ted kennedy. As if he'd give up anything himself.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2005, 09:53:29 PM »
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Rule 2.00 - The Strike Zone
The Strike Zone is defined as that area over homeplate the upper limit of which is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the lower level is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap. The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball.



The strike zone is clearly defined in the written rules. We just need to get rid of those activist umpires that try to stretch it or shrink it.

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2005, 09:59:06 PM »
I don't think I've ever faced one of those so-called "activist umpires." Because they all were. You just had to know in what area you could bend the rules. :)

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2005, 10:27:29 PM »
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"In denying the right [the Supreme Court usurps] of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than [others] do, if I understand rightly [this] quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that 'the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived.'

If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se [act of suicide]. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation.

For experience has already shown that the impeachment it has provided is not even a scare-crow . . . The Constitution on this hypothesis is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please."

   —Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212



The guy was awfully smart. Too bad it turned out the way he feared.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2005, 10:38:30 PM »
Yup - I'm hard pressed to come up with the names of any contemporary equivalent to those guys. What happened?

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2005, 11:01:48 PM »
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I heard the speech on the radio. At the end, I couldn't remember a single thing he said. All in all, it was a "safe" speech. - Sandman


Brief, too.  I certainly appreciated it, especially after all the hot air.

In fact, it was far more salient than any words I heard from a Senator, left or right.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2005, 11:02:19 PM »
It's all the southerly migration of liberals  ;)

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Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: No, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canada's fault!
Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the darn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to **** myself!
Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Copy Guy: They're not even a real country anyway
Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer, it's a-true
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue
Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Sheila: Heck no!
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their hockey hullabaloo
Liane: And that ***** Anne Murray too
Everyone: Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
Ohhh...
The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus


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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2005, 11:03:38 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2005, 11:17:51 PM »
Marshall expanded the Court's power... and got away with it. Hasn't been the same since.

To sum up, by clipping from a review of a book on the subject... Marshall outsmarted Jefferson.

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In 1801, at the end of Adams's presidency, Marshall accepted the Supreme Court chief justice's position and Jefferson became the nation's third president. That set the stage for years of competition between the two philosophies of government, especially the two visions of the judiciary, represented by the principal antagonists of Simon's history.

Simon deftly explains how Jefferson and Marshall maintained a faeade of civility in their public pronouncements while unleashing blistering mutual vituperation privately. Ultimately, as Simon demonstrates, Marshall prevailed. His technique was subtlety itself.

In his opinion in Marbury v. Madison, Marshall gave an ostensible victory to Madison (Jefferson's Secretary of State) but reached that result by asserting the authority of the Supreme Court to declare acts of Congress unconstitutional. That assertion had far-reaching implications for consolidating the federal government's power.

Once the Supreme Court became the ultimate interpreter of the Constitution, the court repeatedly exercised its authority to invalidate state laws and court decisions inconsistent with the federal Constitution.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2005, 11:22:51 PM »
But the Constitution itself is a legal document.

If not up for "interpretation" by the SC, then by whom?

If Congress passes laws not in accordance with the Constitution, and if the Judiciary cannot - for lack of a better term - call the dudes on it, then what prevents the Constitution's complete erosion?

Who then upholds it?

In whose hands would you entrust with it?

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2005, 11:22:54 PM »
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Touchy Touchy...lol.
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