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Offline FiLtH

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« on: September 12, 2005, 11:47:52 PM »
The head ons in here seems like its so much easier for people to get kills than it was back in AW. Back then you actually had to get on a guys 6 or a decent deflection to score hits. The headon was virtually non-existant.  Must be alot of people out there that use the HO as their primary weapon.

You guys with super computers...is it easier to see planes turn back on you, rather than seeing them going one direction, and then seem to turn inside themselves and are coming straight toward you?

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 11:50:55 PM »
The reason that HO's in here are more lethal are that AH2 does nothing to reduce their lethality.  In AW, they reduced them by a massive percent to make them worthless.

Quit whining and learn how to avoid.  Maybe it would make you happy if they brought back dive flaps on the Hellcat too....

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 12:08:40 AM »
You must be one of "them" type.

   

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 12:10:15 AM »
I thought you were a buff guy?
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 12:16:07 AM »
Im both.  I fly buffs for big missions and formation stuff...and basically add my 2 cents in defense of guys who only buff, when the world comes down on them.  You dont remember me flying fighters back in AW?

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Re: Head on shots should burnin hayell
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 12:28:08 AM »
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rather than seeing them going one direction, and then seem to turn inside themselves and are coming straight toward you?

Hos will always happen in AH, and there are always ways to avoid them.

I have only seen what you describe happen once. I was in a 262 going in on a fleeing p38 to kill him or get him to turn so my Knightland peasantry could kill him in their spitniks. I went in he stayed level in my gunsight until d1.5 then he came right at me, exactly if his nose switched instantly with his tail. I avoided most of his 50spray. When he died in a hail of peasantry sprayguns. His name popped up on the buffer, It was a certain p38 driver known for his extremely lucky connection.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2005, 12:31:58 AM »
A thing which I've realized recently, is that since the "xxx collided into you" message was introduced, it appears that a lot of the HO deaths are actually collision deaths.

 This one time, I've had a P-38 HO my Bf109G-10. I took the challenge, and landed the 30mm on his cockpit and moved out of the way in the nick of time... when suddenly, boom! I'm back in the tower... and the message, "xxx has collided with you"..

 Normally, if this happened before, I'd probably be assuming that I lost the HO and maybe my pilot got shot before I've completely moved away... when actually, it was the enemy plane colliding into me which killed me.

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2005, 02:26:43 AM »
Reduce the range info to 500 yards and you see less HO working and lots of more fun combat with realistic gunnery
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2005, 02:40:02 AM »
I had an interesting experience. I was in an A20 intercepting a pair of B26's. Now...apparently the 26s were manned. So I fired at a front qtr - he had the man'd guns up, and aimed all 3 of his bomber's FF guns. Well...suffice to say, I got the lead bomber, but damn if all those guns from everything else found my ass. It hurt.


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Offline BigR

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2005, 03:31:20 AM »
Actually AW had a randomizer on HOs. Not every hit counted. Hits would randomly count. That’s why you would always hear guys say "Damn randomizer!" I personally loved the randomizer because it really made for some awesome fights. Think about it...you could merge head to head without worrying about dying (most of the time). I think this actually encouraged a lot more head to head stall fights. I sure saw a lot more in AW than I have seen here. It could have just been the mentality back then in that game.

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2005, 07:04:21 AM »
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A thing which I've realized recently, is that since the "xxx collided into you" message was introduced, it appears that a lot of the HO deaths are actually collision deaths.



I got one of those "xxx collided with you" messages when I got hacked off and HO'd a Yak and I didn't go down. He went down, but I'm assuming it was my girlie man HO as he flew on for quite awhile before he went down.

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2005, 07:25:24 AM »
yEah HiTEch nedds to remove the headon shotz and while he'se at it he should dizable being shot from behind cauze I die to  people snekaing up on my sixx to much two!!

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2005, 07:27:35 AM »
Its not a HO later in the fight, that happens that bothers me. Its when you close on a guy and hes about 1.5 going away from you, and all of a sudden you go to fire and hes firing at you.

  As far as the rams...when I see the message "XXX collided with you"...what does that mean. Does it mean he saw a collision and should take the damage? Because if thats the case its backwards for me. I get the message they collided but I take damage and they fly away.

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2005, 10:34:48 AM »
The only thing that really bothers me regarding HOs is when I try to avoid the HO and the HOer flies past me and his "TIME DELAYED" rounds slam into me as he's 50 yards behind me.:mad:

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2005, 11:06:03 PM »
I "HO'ed" someone tonight.  Actually hey went off to my side so I kicked full right rudder and ripped off his tail like a little shrimp.  I promptly landed that kill and 2 others.
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