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Offline Krusher

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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2005, 07:32:49 AM »
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They had some relatives of those actually on flight 93 and they like it. Perhaps their opinion on the monument is more important than ours, no?
 


Absolutly not, they (the families) do not own the event, not to mention several have stated their objections already.

Look the bottom line is this should not be controversial at all. if it is, it needs to be changed.

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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2005, 08:22:24 AM »
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I think the resemblance is overstated.


It's like saying a cross resembles a swastika.


To me it would be the same as putting something that resembles the star of david on a memorial for a hamas bomber.

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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2005, 01:19:32 PM »
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Absolutly not, they (the families) do not own the event, not to mention several have stated their objections already.

Look the bottom line is this should not be controversial at all. if it is, it needs to be changed.


From the link above:

As the black cloak that had hidden the winner was removed, a collective gasp came from those gathered, who then rose to their feet to applaud.

In the front row, three family members --a woman who lost her mother, a woman who lost her husband and a woman who lost her brother -- leaned into each other, in a show of love and support.

"It's powerful but understated," said Kiki Homer, whose brother, LeRoy W. Homer Jr., was co-pilot on the plane that crashed after passengers rebelled against terrorist hijackers. "It's beautifully simple.

"My breath is taken away."

Esther Heymann, whose daughter, Elizabeth Wainio, died in the crash, agreed.

"The understatement speaks to the profoundness of what occurred here," she said.

According to jurors who chose the winner, it offers "tranquility, beauty and silence. It will be a place for everyone who visits to feel the spirits of the 40 heroes in the whisper of the trees and honor their unselfish sacrifice of their lives to preserve the lives of countless many."
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2005, 01:43:51 PM »
the use of a crescent in this memorial is a tragic concept and I hope the decision is reversed.  

If you are from PA call your congresspersons, senators and write letters to your editors......let them know the red crescent is a symbol of Islam and entirely inappropriate in a memorial that was created by Islamic mass murderers.
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2005, 01:47:11 PM »
Nice idea..

but, not the right look..
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2005, 01:48:35 PM »
Perhaps a continuing spiral till it reaches the exact center of impact.
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2005, 05:22:38 PM »
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the use of a crescent in this memorial is a tragic concept and I hope the decision is reversed.  

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But come on ISlam is a "religon of peace" right?

Why not just a full circle?
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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2005, 06:11:48 PM »
This is really what we need.  Nothing gaudy, just pure emotional power:

 
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2005, 07:02:09 PM »
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This is really what we need.  Nothing gaudy, just pure emotional power:

 


It's not ecanomic!!

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But yea.. I think a large statue of all the people on the flight pushing through a cockpit door and with dead terroists laying around..
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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2005, 10:04:46 PM »
How about we think about the islamic fundamentilist's will think when they see this
  Ya think they won't take it as a "sign from god " ?

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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2005, 01:49:12 AM »
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How about we think about the islamic fundamentilist's will think when they see this
  Ya think they won't take it as a "sign from god " ?


  If they do they will be running them l`il towelheaded arses off. :)
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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2005, 10:39:41 AM »
WASHINGTON - The architect of the memorial to a plane downed in western Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, said Wednesday he would work to satisfy critics who complained that it honors terrorists with its crescent-shaped design.
Designer Paul Murdoch said he is "somewhat optimistic" that the spirit of the design could be maintained.

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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2005, 12:34:23 AM »
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WASHINGTON - The architect of the memorial to a plane downed in western Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, said Wednesday he would work to satisfy critics who complained that it honors terrorists with its crescent-shaped design.
Designer Paul Murdoch said he is "somewhat optimistic" that the spirit of the design could be maintained.


UPDATE:

SO the artist grudgenly changed his design but it doesnt look all that different to me.  SIDENOTE:  Leslie I hope you didn't think I was jumping on you, like I said I think it looks good but completly inappropriate.

http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2005/11/redesigned-flight-93-memorial-still_30.html

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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2005, 12:36:55 AM »
It's a semi-circle. The horror!
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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2005, 12:44:29 AM »
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It's a semi-circle. The horror!


still looks like a cresent to me.  Either way the conspiracy theory of it pointing to mecca sounds interesting.  Wonder if there's any truth to that.