Author Topic: A day at the Range (Read 844 times)

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2005, 11:51:13 AM »

You're worried about recoil for the 19 year old? (A little ironic since I'm only 20).

I had a shotgun in my hands at 14.

Waffle · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2005, 12:19:58 PM »

he's worried about the recoil for his 19 MONTH old kid....not years...

19 months should be able to handle the Ruger...

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:14:08 PM »

He edited that...

cpxxx · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:26:11 PM »

Those guys must have been watching too many movies. At least they did it on the range and not on some street or back yard where a ricocheting round might have done some harm.

I saw a guy hit on the chest by a spent round once. It was in the 'butts' on an army range where we were raising and lowering targets for the shooters. Probably it was a old round which was kicked back and spun toward us the way soil and stones often were. He screamed he'd been shot. He never lived it down later. We were always asking him to show us his bullet wound.

Chairboy · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:35:59 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
He edited that...

Nope. Check the timestamps and lack of Edit by Chairboy on blippety bloppity at bloop o'clock.

Silly laser, tricks are for kids.

Widewing · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:44:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Xargos
I think with them playing around they must have shot the wall to the right then it bounced off the steel that holds the target, I did hear a bullet strike the steel.

About 14 or 15 years ago I was participating in an indoor plate match at our local pistol range. We had two firing points, seven yards from the plate table. As I was waiting on point 2, a shooter on point 1 runs the plates. He was shooting a .38 Super auto and his last round missed the plate, hit the steel table frame and came back, hitting me in abdomen just below the ribs.

The mangled jacket cut thru my shirt, tee shirt and left a sizable gash and a nasty bruise. Took seven stitches at the local emergency room to close it. Had to file an Accidental Shooting report (required by law) as the Hospital is required to notify the fuzz.

I'd been bruised and dinged by spent rounds and bullet fragments during bowling pin and plate matches before (usually around the shins and ankles), but that was the only time that I was actually injured. It was also the last time too. No more indoor plate matches for me. My wife would have become apoplectic....

My regards,

Widewing

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2005, 02:57:52 PM »

Sounds like a great excuse to apply some of those radar-stealth equations to the rear wall of the range. Oooh, or put a 'wall of ballistic gel' in back. That would look sweet, with all the bullets suspended in plain sight.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2005, 06:29:12 PM »

CPXXX,

There's very few times when I was as freaked out as when we were pulling butts for a night shoot. The shooters had full mags of 5.56 tracers. You never realize how much those rounds bounce around untill you see them in tracer form.

Once on a KD course I had a guy next to me shooting left handed and in the prone I must have caught 2 or 3 rounds of brass that just magically fall underneith your flack vest or shirt colar.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2005, 02:59:12 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
How the hell did one of their rounds hit you in the chest?

And why the hell didnt you promptly shoot at 3 of them back?

I've had a riccochet of a bullet fragment bounce back andhit me in the chest a few times. It is more common than you realize. Furthermore, I shoot the orange out of the silhouette. However, and entire bullet would be a rare one.

Karaya

cpxxx · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2005, 08:49:11 AM »

Gunslinger,

Never been on a night shoot with tracer but I must say all those obvious ricochets spinning away somewhere always worried me.

As for brass down your shirt collar, ditto. It was particularly bad with the Browning hi power. Everyone turned up their shirt collars or wore scarves but I always got burned. One guy took a hot case down his shirt collar and reacted by yelling and waving his cocked pistol all over the place. We all dived for cover.

It was even worse with the Carl Gustav M45 sub machine gun. You'd be showered with hot brass from the guy on your left.

lazs2 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2005, 09:24:40 AM »

anytime you shoot at metal or rock there is a chance something will come back at you. Had it happen to me a few times.

Supposedly... you are not supposed to use metal targets that have dents in em as that causes more bounce back. I haven't been able to tell tho..

the worst one I had was when I shot a 44 mag round at a steel wheel... that round came back before the gun came back down out of recoil... some dummy shot off a lock once before I could stop him with his 44... you don't really shoot the lock to peieces... that don't work too well... you shoot the top of the lock and the energy and shock breaks the guts holding the thing closed.

lazs

JCLerch · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2005, 01:02:49 PM »

Another item to watch out for (especially on home made, out door ranges) are Rubber Tires!

My father in law has a little 2 shot daranger, the barrel isn't much longer than 2 inches. I asked him if he could hit anything with it, and he replied I should go find out for myself.

We put a 1 gallon milk jug on top of a board, which was on a stack of tires in the shooting pit. I first started at 20 foot, two rounds, no hits. Moved to 10ft, still couldn't hit it. Finally moved up to 5 foot, still missed the dang gallon jug, but succeded in shooting myself in the abdomen! The round was centered, but was low, and consequently hit the outside of one tire. The geometry was such it sent the round right back where it came from, just lower, hitting me in the abdomen just above the family jewls.

Fortunatly no harm done, but I refused to admit defeat. To avoid shooting myself again I side stepped sever feet, and tried again. YUP, same results, but this time I shot myself closer to my belly button!

Moral to the story is, if you hit a cylinder, and a line drawn from the barrel to the impact site lines up with the center of the cylinder, the round WILL return to whence it came, but at just a slightly different elevation!

As I walk out of the pit, my Father in law asks "So, Did you hit it?" I replied "NO, but I did shoot myself in the gut, not once, but twice!

OH, and the milk jug, it found the business end of a 30-06 from 100ft, with me laying in the prone position behind, yup you guessed it, a rubber tire!

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2005, 10:10:26 AM »

that's kinda weird... for a while, at my brothers place, we had some euclid tires (bout 5' high implement tires) as a backstop if we missed the little mound of dirt we were shooting at... the tires were so thick and tough that we found some handgun rounds laying in the bottom of em... they went through the first sidewall or tread but wouldn't make it out the other side.

lazs

Charon · « **Reply #28 on:** September 18, 2005, 10:23:00 AM »

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There's very few times when I was as freaked out as when we were pulling butts for a night shoot. The shooters had full mags of 5.56 tracers. You never realize how much those rounds bounce around untill you see them in tracer form.

I always though that was the tracer element getting knocked out on impact.

Charon

Gunslinger · « **Reply #29 on:** September 18, 2005, 11:37:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Charon
I always though that was the tracer element getting knocked out on impact.

Charon

I'm not an expert or anything but I wouldn't think it was the element. Either way it looks like something out of starwars and it changes how you think about things when you are pulling butts during the daytime.