The CT would really not be worth flying if.....

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I have to agree with Bear.  I think that, on average, the skill level in the CT is definitely higher than that of the MA.  However, I don't buy that the skill level of the very best of the CT regulars rivals that of the very best of the MA regulars.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Well no. We arent as good as you or kappa,Mane,4ACES,etc. We do try but thats asking a bit much:D






btw, I put Grits, hub, and Superdud down as references on my application. Was that a bad thing to do?

[Dead Man Flying]

hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT.  However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men.  I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.

I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players.  Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA.  On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[TheBug]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT.  However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men.  I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.

I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players.  Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA.  On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

Hehe, coming to the realization that everthing we do in this game doesn't warrant boasting a bigger brag than if you were best at Connect-Four on your block, is true enlightment.

[Dead Man Flying]

True.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT.  However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men.  I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.

I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players.  Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA.  On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

Pretty much sums it up for those of us with a clue.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Slash27
btw, I put Grits, hub, and Superdud down as references on my application. Was that a bad thing to do?

Good move, I r TeH Sm@rt3st w00t!

[soda72]

This argument has been going on and on and on and is quite stale....  The CT rules of etiquette can make it much more enjoyable especially if the numbers are low, but there's no reason to get all bent out of shape when the eye of the beholder believes someone else is breaking the rules.  I think most of the CT regular understand this.  IMO if you want a good 1v1 go to the DA, the CT is not a very good place to do that.  As soon as the number goes above 15 the rules of etiquette seem to go out the window anyway...

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Larry
Bat Im getting tried of this. We started out good earlyer then you started saying stuff to storch. I was fighting your squadie and storch was fighting you I dont know why your squadie left but I dont remember anyone saying anything to him setp for me ing him. Then stang came on and I was heading over to fight him while you were fighting storch. You killed storch and came after me right after me and stang merged and yes you ganged and picked me. You want the film of that? Then I fought stang and some how his LA5 out turned my full flaping 109F. He left a few minutes later I would love the clip of us ganging you. If what you are talking about is stoch fighting you and me cirlcing 4-5k above watching the fight then while storch augered I was on the phone and dove in about 30secs after stoch was dead  then you need to rethink what ganging is. Then storch left right after he said something, but I didnt hear because I had my headset off still on the phone. Then you uped again and I B&Zed you and hurt you pretty bad instead of turn fighting a P40E in a 109 while still on the phone. After I seen your engine was dead I broke off and RTBed. See I could have vulched you or finnished you off but I was being nice and I let you go land. After that you said something like good fight storch and I told you storch was gone you said something like I can see your flying like a weenie to. Oh btw did I say about when you were on the phone so storch waited instead of just killing you while you were afk? Oh and your the guy blabing about rank not us. How about right when I got there and you said you were ganna fight you squadie so I said Ill stay out and watch? See we could be a bunch of A holes and gang and ect. but we are trying to fly like yall want w/o picking and ganging. Then while doing that YALL start ganging and picking. So yall want us to go back to the old JG54 or you want us to fight "fair"?

its more a matter of disgresion and you should know this as you still practice it.

if you see two planes winging close up, and you are more than one guy you should expect co-operation, who ever denied shooting at ny given target if not a ho in a 2v2, 3vs2 or more?


you guys willstill fight co-operative when it suits you, and then whine when it doesnt.

we should all drop the MA stereotypes ;cherrypick' 'gangbang' etc. its so boring when it isnt true.

I could post many films showing this in action, and many films of everyone dogfighting en mass instead of 1 on 1s and you know that too.




most importantly, watch the film for ch200 usage, notice your own attitudes and how you come accross compared to ours. even if we think things we keep it to our teamates and ourselves.




i wont argue this out, it will only go stale.

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT.  However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men.  I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.

I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players.  Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA.  On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

just to clarify my statement that flying the CT for a months and then moving to MA again can make you feel like clubbing seals at times was more a reflection on the easier kills side.

i know all too well that the good and great MA sticks fight just as good and better any given day, only when you meet one you dont expect it and you might not fly as well as in the CT at first.



99.9*% fly them both anyhow so there is not so much of a distiction between the two as we might be lead to think.

[Larry]

Bat I hate to say this but your an idiot I watched the films and unless your blind to I was heading to stang while you were fighting storch then you came and ganged me. YES 2v1 is a gang. Oh and I love how you blame to no dar on me that jsut plain stupid. And look at everytime we "trash talked" yall look who starts taking **** first then whines later. I really love all the atempted HOs that you tryed while fighting storch and ganging us then saying we ganed you. Take a really good look at film two and tell me that we are ganging you. So next time you want to start **** and then try to blame us for **** we didnt do think first. Maybe if you open you eyes while your watching the films youd see it.

[mechanic]

again, this film you quoted was intended as a fair representation of tonights ct fight, i did not claim anywhere in the text tonight that you were being terrible players, except maybe i may comment on your negative attitude when losing. tody in this film i was shooting any red icon that came into my sights, notice how at times there is the descision made to fight one on one.

i was hoing storch, i had no vision through my oil and he was ho;ing back after a long and drawn out alt fight.

you are talking about film92 i presume?  watch it again and read all the c200 text. notice the very first fight is a one on one with storch and i let him ditch with no engine. notice the attitudes. nice and calm. the smack was flowing from the start but on a low and humurous level. then after stang came in and we just we're better, you guys lost heart and went sour like a piece of fruit infont of us.

there was no ganging, all fair fights, my 'cherry pick' on your 'fight' with stang was infact a well timed move and a fairly lucky snapshot that beat stang's merge as i was coming from another angle. niether of us had claimed you. storch then came up and was stangs, i stayed out. stang won. then 'the fearfull gangbang of storch's f4f' was infact storch, misreading which plane he should merge with on a 2 v 1 merge, we merely have the experience to merge so that at least one of us get on the end a lone fighter


maybe you need to watch another film or two and then edit your post before you look an idiot yourself. (sigh)


http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/P51_3vs1.ahf

this was only a few weeks ago, from my last films batch.

can dig out many more. i film ad save almost all furballs and 1 on 1s in the CT that last more than a few mins


but why bother , we all should get along and fly for fun.  

watch it again i beg of you.


http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film92.ahf
read it carefully and unbiased.

fast forward to the last 30 seconds, you say 'storch wont ever vulch' then you both procede to 2 on 1 me for goodness sake.


you are infact making a scene out of this incedent and further degrading the CT adn yourselves.

this is my last post to you in this tread because i wish to reamin on speaking terms with you at least.


abolish the rank system in the CT please.

[storch]

in that exchange when TK typed you the storch won't vultch or if my memory serves me right gang is what he wrote. i told TK anyone except him. meaning you of course.  i gave you a short burst on one lamely pressed pass just to throw you off balance a bit.  however, from now on I'll fly three sectors to gang up on you just so you know the other thing is we both pretty much suck at HO'n so we should quit, or at least we should quit HO'n each other and HO others that way at least 50% of the HO'rs will likely score.

on a personal note, when do you sleep?  you seem to be on here posting films like an intardnet spielberg so much that i'm becoming curiously concerned for your welfare. go set some posts or something.

[mechanic]

i only missed those 3 hos because of oil damage, i can hit you with a clean screen


I like it that you little cuties are ganging up to take us down, but i dont think its fair for TK to claim that you lot never gang bang.


just play how you play and dont complain when you get beat, especially when its not a 1 on 1 fight.

no i never sleep, sometimes i go for 48 hours awake, 12 hours sleep, 8 hours work, 12 hours sleep.

creativity is a nocturnal creature, music doesnt make itself at 9am in the morning.

[Larry]

I havent ganged anyone in about 2weeks sept for thats Jabo mission that we did last week and grits got in our way. The gang when storch made one pass that you are talkign about really dosent count because you were pretty much dead before he uped. I put 3 20mms in your tail before he got off the ground I was trying to land that last hit and I did I didnt need storchs help. I would have let you RTB but storch wouldent have let you get your gears down so I desided to finnish you off.

[mechanic]

^^^^ if you believe yourself here, then you need to:

A) watch film92 (again) read the text, and laugh at your own mistaken words.

B) stop making the past up as it suits you on the boards