Proud father moment

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Originally posted by Iceman24
tell your son I said nice moves... I see a nice Walter Peyton stiff arm on #35 and then a great Barry Sanders spinorama. Tell him to keep that arm in until the defender gets close then stiff arm, especially with that nice forearm pad your son has on he should be able to put a nice punch/stiffarm on a defender and not hurt his hand. Tell him to keep it tucked until the last second then try and punch the other player in the head. Its a running backs best friend and unless the defender sees it coming is caught completely off gaurd and off balance. And always tell him to run low or as low as he can without falling over, thats how running backs put punishment on defenders, they run into them real fast/hard, while staying lower... it also makes the back allot harder to tackle because all of his momentum is moving foraward. Look at any good running back in the NFL... Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jim Brown... They all ran real low to the ground, kept the center of gravity real low and it made em real hard to tackle, thats how they seemingly bounce off of defenders, there actually hitting them really hard and knockin the defenders back and they can't tackle them... Thats the only thing I would have him work on, running way high like that is just asking for a kill shot by a defender, may be a lil faster runnin like that, but just asking for a shot in the chest/stomach

Trust me, you've not posted anything I and the coaches haven't already rehearsed him in...after many pictures and movies of practice since August, he's tired of hearing me tell him the things you mention above.  He'll probably get his clock cleaned "standing tall" one day, then he'll understand the need to get low.  

Thanks...Its very refreshing to hear the same advice from another source!

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I just wanted to add, that when he saw this series of pics (we again discussed his need to get low) the first thing he noticed is "I should have switched the ball to the outside hand". He's learning!  He just needs to put thought into action. Not bad for a 1st year player.

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no definately not bad at all, he's already showing instincts that are great such as that stiff arm and spin, he never thought about doin them, he just did it... and you just can't coach that stuff. Once he gets a few games under his belt, he'll start to lower them shoulders and become a train, he'll figure it all out, right now as long as he's having fun thats all that matters. he has allot of football yet to play and allot more coaches, some will be FOS and the others great. Fun is the name of the game now.

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
WTG rip.  Cool photos too.  I can't wait till Gunslinger Jr can play sports.  His mom wants him to play soccer but I decided to quote my father "no son of mine is playing commie-ball"

Just point out to her the fact that injury for injury there your kids more likely to get hurt and more injuries occur in soccer then in Tackle football.
And in football the kids are padded or otherwise protected almost form head to toe.
shin pads thiegh pads,hip pads,cup,flack jacket (rib protector)
then you can get the collar to protect the neck, Shoulder pads,
Helmet for the noggen and mouth peice.

Add to that Force = mass X acceleration.

Well these kids arent that big (mass)  arent really all that
fast (acceleration) so they really dont generate all that much force

LOL My sister in law wouldnt let my nephew play football cause she was afraid he'd get hurt so she let him play soccer figuring it would be safer where  over a two year period he  managed to break his ankle,his nose, and his arm.

If she still is resistant well then sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do and just tell her "this is the way its gonna be" and stand your ground and dont give in.

she'll get over it

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Originally posted by Iceman24
no definately not bad at all, he's already showing instincts that are great such as that stiff arm and spin, he never thought about doin them, he just did it... and you just can't coach that stuff. Once he gets a few games under his belt, he'll start to lower them shoulders and become a train, he'll figure it all out, right now as long as he's having fun thats all that matters. he has allot of football yet to play and allot more coaches, some will be FOS and the others great. Fun is the name of the game now.

Absolutely. Fun is what it is all about, but its amazing how these kids just LOVE structured discipline that comes with football. They (the coaches) are hard on the kids, but they NEVER put them down in a humiliating fashion. Sure, they tough on the kids, no talking during practice, make them do push ups when they go offsides during practice, the occasional outbursts from coaches yelling at the kids to go 100%, not 50%... etc., but out of 45 players, not ONE had dropped out of the program.  Let me give you an idea of how good the coaches are in Puyallup....we were 1.5 hours early for sign up this past spring, and we were the 39th player taken....over 300 kids showed up for 45 positions!  Of course being the state Jr. football champion (for their weight class) the year before helps too

My kid is borderline obsessed with the sport now...kinda scarey, really...

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Originally posted by Simaril
One real advantage of "commie ball" -- physical size is much less important than it is for other primary US sports, like footabll and basketball. Skill can be developed by hard work even without having been blessed with statistical outlier size, which lets smaller kids have an opportunity to excel.

Plus, around here, teh soccer players have this alternalive music look that is much cooler than the typical jock persona..



And Rip -- WTG on the run! Can imagine the way it felt to watch it happen from the stands!

Speaking for Football while size does have its advantages. Heart, and/or talent plays a big part in it too and can often negate size.

One of the best players I coached was also the smallest player on the team. How good? Good enough to be on the starting D-line

By contrast one of the worst players I ever coached was also the biggest kid I ever coached.

[Iceman24]

My kid is borderline obsessed with the sport now...kinda scarey, really...

ahh another 1 hopelessly addicted lol thers worse things than football... Honestly if I wouldn't have played ball I would have been a hoodlum. Thats the only thing that really kept me in check. The fear of a coach finding out I skipped class or something and making me run until I puked kept me out of allot of trouble. It also instills allot of pride in younger kids, and gives them allot of character developement... Its like they say football isn't a sport its a way of life

Good luck this season, keep us posted on how ya'll are doin

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look at emmitt smith, 1 of the smallest players to play the game, also the #1 running back in its history... I'm a true believer in heart makes the player, not the size or speed. Randy Moss may be the most athletic reciever to play the game, but he will never be 1/2 the player Jerry Rice was because he has no heart, he's there for a paycheck... Lavar Arrington may be the biggest fastest linebacker to play in the NFL but he won't be 1/2 the linebacker LT or Ray Lewis because he doesn't have the heart

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Originally posted by Iceman24
hitting and tacking power in football is all about quickness and leverage... If you are faster and lower than the other guy at the point of impact, he's the 1 that will be hurting. Velocity X weight = Force of Impact... But what this formula forgets is leverage, if 1 player hits another with perfect form, head up, rear down, and sticks his face mask in the others chest, the guy lower will win 90% of the time. Unless the other player is just way bigger than the other, like twice the size... I used to coach a peewee team a year ago and I went into it with the mindset to just let these kids have fun and just teach em the basics, proper form and hitting stances, never made em run allot of sprints or anything, the kids just loved it, they loved coming to practice. I never had a problem with any parents wanting there kids to play more or less, it was just a really good time for everyone involved. We went 7-3 but like I said I wasn't concerned with winning and losing, but some of these other teams had coaches screaming at there kids, cussing at them at times, you could just see that those kids were not having any fun at all. I think thats really sad because thats when football is the purest and those kids will grow up with a negative impression of football and most likely not play Jr. or high school ball. Once the kids  get into highchool you can start making a huge deal about winning, but other than that just let em have fun. The worst thing is when a parent trys to play through there kid, luckily I didn't have any of those on my team

dead on balls accurate 100%

I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.
Really pays off gametime when the kids arent tripping over their own feet LOL

Had one long time ref tell me after a game I had one of the best tackling defences he'd ever seen which I took as quite a compliment

One night a week for one hour we used to let them have their own mini game. Just let em choose up their own sides and call all the plays. The coaches would ref but othewise pretty much stay out of it.
Kids loved it. And its amazing just how much they grasp

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BTW Rip.

WTG on the kids progression. Glad to see hes doing so well.

Ment to say that in first post but got carried away in my thoughts LOL

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Thanks Iceman/ Dred.

Thanks for sharing your stories guys. I never played football and its all "new" to me, I like to hear your perspectives as you remember it.  All I know is Iceman is spot on, sports in general usually keep a kid on the straight and narrow.  On that note, I now use "Football Practice and games" as leverage to get as many reading minutes from my oldest as we want!  If he's hesitant about homework, I just have to begin to pronounce "football" and he's at the desk cracking away at the homework and reading.

[Iceman24]

I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.


CC thats a fundamental if you ask me, thats why in highschool my coached made me work out with the soccer players, then in the offseason work out with the track guys... i hated it, but my junior and senior season it really paid off, and I got a nice schollarship for it  free college is great, and when you play ball at college, everything is free lol

Rip football used to be and I guess still is my life, I played since I was 5 all the way to college at univerity of texas, played for 2 years there and busted my knee up for about the 5th time lol had to have a total reconstuct twice, basically had to learn to walk twice lol. But even after that I couldn't stay away. I started playing minor league ball and that was a blast until 2 seasons ago, i was playing left tackle on offense and the RB got tackled into the back and outside of my knee again and I tore it up again, and at that point I said that's it no more lol I'm obviously not gonna go pro, might as well put that business degree to good use lol But I can't watch a game on tv without at least thinking about going back and playing again, its the most fun I know how to have with clothes on anyways lol

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Originally posted by Iceman24
I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.


CC thats a fundamental if you ask me, thats why in highschool my coached made me work out with the soccer players, then in the offseason work out with the track guys... i hated it, but my junior and senior season it really paid off, and I got a nice schollarship for it  free college is great, and when you play ball at college, everything is free lol

Rip football used to be and I guess still is my life, I played since I was 5 all the way to college at univerity of texas, played for 2 years there and busted my knee up for about the 5th time lol had to have a total reconstuct twice, basically had to learn to walk twice lol. But even after that I couldn't stay away. I started playing minor league ball and that was a blast until 2 seasons ago, i was playing left tackle on offense and the RB got tackled into the back and outside of my knee again and I tore it up again, and at that point I said that's it no more lol I'm obviously not gonna go pro, might as well put that business degree to good use lol But I can't watch a game on tv without at least thinking about going back and playing again, its the most fun I know how to have with clothes on anyways lol

Sounds like alot of good memories Iceman!  Good on you!  You should look into teaching others what you've enjoyed so much for so many years, you sound as though you'd make a good coach.

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Rip,

How come all dem helmets gots questionmarks on teh sides?

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Originally posted by eagl
Rip,

How come all dem helmets gots questionmarks on teh sides?

LOL! I'd never viewed it that way, but now that yo mention it!

Maybe we could be called "Who's your Daddy?" team?