Can I ask again to bring the M-4 Sherman to Aces High?

[gofaster]

We're getting a 109K, so how about a Sherman tank?  Although, given the game play of the MA, I think the M-24 would be a better choice.

The M4 was based on the chassis of the M3 Lee, but improved by mounting the single main 75 mm gun in a traversing turret. Over 49,000 were produced during the war for use by the British, Free French, Soviet and Polish armies as well as the United States.

Special versions were developed for the Battle of Normandy under the leadership of Major-General Percy Hobart and formed part of Hobart's Funnies. These vehicles included "swimming" Duplex Drive Sherman tanks, mine clearing tanks (the Sherman Crab - a Sherman tank with a flail in front of it which destroyed mines without damage to the tank), bridge-laying tanks and road-laying tanks.

Early models were fitted with a 75 mm low-velocity gun, which had limited anti-armour performance, especially as enemy tanks evolved, but fired an effective HE shell. Later American Shermans were fitted with a 76 mm gun with improved anti-tank performance. These being the M4A1 76(w), M4A2 76(w) and M4A3 76(w) models. The final WWII Sherman was the M4A4, although the M4A3E8 76(w) HVSS "Easy Eight" is generally regarded as the best of the production line, and equalled the Soviet T-34/85 in terms of anti-tank capability.

According to US doctrine the role of defeating German armour fell to tank destroyers such as the M10 Wolverine rather than medium tanks. Nevertheless up-gunned versions of the Sherman performed well against Pz IV tanks. However they were no match on a one-to-one basis when the more heavily armoured and better-gunned German Panther and Tiger tanks came into production. In the Normandy campaign it could take five Shermans to knock out a Tiger tank, and then by manoeuvering to find its weaker flank or rear armour. (The Soviet T-34s fared similarly against the German tanks, as previously the German PzIII had against the Soviet heavy tanks.)

[AKDogg]

t34/85 would be better to compete against the tiger1.  Of course, both would be nice.

[1K3]

Affirmative action NOW!

Americans are being left behind

[frank3]

Originally posted by gofaster
We're getting a 109K, so how about a Sherman tank?

We're getting a 109k, so why ask for a Sherman tank?

and Ike, we just got the P-47N!

[Angus]

Sherman will - one day or another - be necessary for AH
An upgraded T34 will also.
Now - the Sherman with the 76 mm gun and other improvements (firefly?) is not just a Sherman in AH it also is a completely capable tank better than the current T34 AND Panzer.

[Simaril]

We shouldnt expect -- and maybe even shouldnt ask for -- the Sherman for a simple reason:


Resource allocation.



This relatively small staff is both keeping the game running, and working on a major addition, in TOD. That huge project needs to be done right, and lots are really excited about its immersion and semi-role playing potnetial. Any resources taken off that project delays the roll out.


It's very reasonable to have new stuff that amount to tweaks, like the g10 turning into the K4 and the P-47 getting its N variant. Significantly, both those projects ahve direct applicability to TOD.

The Sherman doesnt.


Even if non-TOD additions are in store, tehy ought to be relatively simple changes, like adding the [size=4
]Wirbelwind[/size]. Its a tweaked Ostwind, having 4x20mm (already modelled) instead of the 37mm. The T34/85 would be a bbit more work, having a different turret and crew, but even its less work than an entirely new platform like the Sherman.


I expect HTC to devote its resources to finishing the project underway before taking on new ones. The 76mm Sherman will probably get here, but I'd recommend against breath holding in the meantime.

[Karnak]

Simiril,

The 20mm cannon on the Wirbelwind are different than any of the 20mm cannon in AH now.  They are much heavier, ground based guns with significantly higher muzzle velocities.  Better then the Hispano as I recall.

[Larry]

Originally posted by gofaster
We're getting a 109K, so how about a Sherman tank?

  wow that was great thanks for the laugh.

We already have the K-4 its just a K-4 wth a 20mm option.

B24
Ki84
2x P38
P47N
T34
Did i miss anything?

Yep we need another allied plane/GV after all HTC is an american company.

[MOIL]

Originally posted by Karnak
Simiril,

The 20mm cannon on the Wirbelwind are different than any of the 20mm cannon in AH now.  They are much heavier, ground based guns with significantly higher muzzle velocities.  Better then the Hispano as I recall.

Yes the 20mm guns on the Wirbelwind have a higher M/V and do more damage than thier A/C 20mm counterparts.

In December 1943 the first model appeared. It was on an unaltered PzKpfw IV chassis with a 16 mm all around turret. Ostbau of Sagan in Silesia produced the vehicles.

Issued to Flugabwehrzüge (AA platoons) of Panzer regiments.

4-2cm Flak 38 20 mm Flakvierling 38

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Karnak
Simiril,

The 20mm cannon on the Wirbelwind are different than any of the 20mm cannon in AH now.  They are much heavier, ground based guns with significantly higher muzzle velocities.  Better then the Hispano as I recall.

Didnt know! Thanks for the info!

Did these cannon have an MG number designation, or were they simply classed as "Flak 38s"?

[Kurfürst]

2cm FlaK C 38, I recall no other designation for it.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by gofaster
Can I ask again to bring the M-4 Sherman to Aces High?

Yup.

[frank3]

It's a free world afterall

(well the H2H is anyway!)

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Simaril



 like adding the [size=4
]Wirbelwind[/size].  

Yes please.

[MOIL]

I like this Lye-El guy