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Offline Bodhi

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« on: September 19, 2005, 09:22:51 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050919/pl_usatoday/militarysroleindisastersreconsidered

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should the US Military be allowed to be active in peace keeping on our soil, short of war.

If this is passed, the potential for a total abolishment of our civil rights will exist.

This is a knee jerk reaction to a catastrophe that needs to be nipped in the bud.  Call your congreeman / woman and voice your opinion before this goes further.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2005, 10:05:56 PM »
Have you called our senators, congresspeople, and governor yet Bodhi?  I'm kind of lazy but i've been in church will Owens before.  I think I could slap him around.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2005, 10:10:22 PM »
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The 1878 Posse Comitatus law could get a fresh look after New Orleans.
President Bush said last week that the military should take a larger role in responding to catastrophic events.



Okay... I'm convinced. He's a moron.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2005, 10:17:19 PM »
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Okay... I'm convinced. He's a moron.


If it is listed only to natural disasters (as in weather, earthquakes, or volcanoes) spelled out very clearly and with a LOCAL response I'd be fine with it.  

This spells out, "The governments military can step in anytime we decide we need too!"
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005, 10:53:06 PM »
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If it is listed only to natural disasters (as in weather, earthquakes, or volcanoes) spelled out very clearly and with a LOCAL response I'd be fine with it.  


I would agree. But it should be allowed ONLY in times of natural disasters and should be worded in no uncertain terms and in a way that cannot be misread or debated in the future in any way shape or form.

anything beyond that and I am dead set against it
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2005, 11:08:47 PM »
This is DUMB.  I am totally against Federal troops acting as any kind of law enforcement or otherwise on US soil.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2005, 11:25:06 PM »
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If it is listed only to natural disasters (as in weather, earthquakes, or volcanoes) spelled out very clearly and with a LOCAL response I'd be fine with it.  

This spells out, "The governments military can step in anytime we decide we need too!"


Congress can send the military in already, under the Posse Comitatus Act.

This is far better than changing the law so the knucklehead-in-chief can send the military in whenever he feels like it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2005, 11:29:54 PM »
...and while we're at it, one could argue that using the armed forces in support of the "war on drugs" violates the Posse Comitatus Act.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2005, 11:33:29 PM »
It could be fair if they would work under the direct command of national guard, in the case they can't field enough troops and need reserves.
Although I guess they would never agree to that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2005, 11:33:32 PM »
Yah know, when the president gave his 'i'm responsible' speach I figured right then that the other shoe was in the air.

...and wouldn't yah know it.. there it is.

Gonna land right on our necks, too.

Sandy, it's far worse than 'the guy's a moron'. I think the guy is somebody's puppet. The biggest mystery now is just who is pulling the strings?
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2005, 11:42:31 PM »
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Congress can send the military in already, under the Posse Comitatus Act.

This is far better than changing the law so the knucklehead-in-chief can send the military in whenever he feels like it.


I wonder why Congress didn't send troops to N.O. immediately after Katrina.

Maybe the CIC wants this change because he got so bashed in the media (and on this bbs) for not getting troops in soon enough while he was waiting for the Governor to ask for them?

All that aside......... I don't favor this law. They want to use troops at home? Fine, I got a great job for them. Let's totally secure our borders and ports and then see how things look. That's a legitimate function for our military.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2005, 11:44:56 PM »
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I wonder why Congress didn't send troops to N.O. immediately after Katrina.


You know the answer to this. Congress does absolutely nothing immediately.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2005, 11:48:03 PM »
...which is probably a good thing. Our government was designed to be slow and tedious.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2005, 11:56:34 PM »
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You know the answer to this. Congress does absolutely nothing immediately.


Sure they do.
Pay raises.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2005, 11:58:43 PM »
Oh no... they do that regularly. :)
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