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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2005, 12:03:05 AM »
Lessee... N.O. needed Fed troops to aid in disaster recovery much sooner.

Congress has the Posse Comitatus but we can't expect them to act in a timely fashion.

If Bush wants a new law to allow him to send Federal troops in faster, we're all opposed to that because, truthfully, that's a bad idea.

Besides, without the law, we'll be able to bash him again for not sending in Federal troops faster.

I like this system.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2005, 12:04:56 AM »
Hmmm... is Bush getting hammered for not sending in troops or is he getting hammered for putting that unqualified clown in charge of FEMA?
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2005, 12:15:05 AM »
Both I believe. Remember the lack of NG troops because the entire LA NG is in Iraq? (Ok, something over 1/3 of the LA guard is in Iraq)

Plus he did get slammed for not sending regulars. I read one media report that 160 helos of the 82nd were ready to go out of Ft. Bragg but waited several days before orders came.

Anyway, I do think this law is a bad idea. I also think FEMA fouled up bigtime... although it may have as much to do with Homeland Security owning FEMA as it does with the leadership of each. Big huge government agencies are slow by nature... as you pointed out.

I think Bush's response was poorly executed too. He needed to show up at the levee break with a shovel in his hand ASAP but he didn't. Not that that would have helped anything other than his media image.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2005, 12:26:36 AM »
what a sack of crap...

fargin idiots that elected that mayor and that govenor need to take responsibility FIRST. Dammit, states and cities are responsible for implementing the plans they develop. No planning, no implementation, no city.

Darwinian Democracy in Action.

The only way to NOT be dissapointed or dissafected by a FEDERAL response is to not EXPECT a federal response.

Do YOU expect the feds to wipe yer damn bellybutton fer yah because yer elected hugahunkr neglected to buy bellybutton wipe??

Damn, whotta buncha horsepucky.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2005, 12:28:24 AM »
I dont like it.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2005, 12:39:03 AM »
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Do YOU expect the feds to wipe yer damn bellybutton fer yah because yer elected hugahunkr neglected to buy bellybutton wipe??

 


Actually, I expected to be clothed in the finest raiment, fed peeled grapes by scantily clad nubile young females and generally cared for as if I was a treasure beyond price from cradle to grave.

Unfortunately, my elected hugahunkr has failed to deliver on any of those.

I'm not expecting any change either.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2005, 12:53:46 AM »
sorry. my blood sugar must be whacked again.

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2005, 12:55:17 AM »
Sadly, this thought will become law.

The foot is gonna come down firmly sooner rather than later.

Frucking Katrina.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2005, 01:09:28 AM »
lends a whole new meaning to the term 'storm troopers'.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2005, 01:18:42 AM »
this type of legislation is indeed very dangerous to our few remaining civil rights thanks for the alert.  i'll be emailing my rep and senators directly.

on a sad note i have to agree with sandman on this issue.
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2005, 03:34:03 AM »
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Yah know, when the president gave his 'i'm responsible' speach I figured right then that the other shoe was in the air.

...and wouldn't yah know it.. there it is.

Gonna land right on our necks, too.

Sandy, it's far worse than 'the guy's a moron'. I think the guy is somebody's puppet. The biggest mystery now is just who is pulling the strings?


No kidding. I can't recall when any President wasn't a puppet.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2005, 08:03:27 AM »
I wonder what the ACLU's position on the proposed legislation is/will be?

I suspect it will be one of those rare occasions where we all appreciate their efforts.   Maybe.   Though I can't imagine them being in favor of it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2005, 08:18:38 AM »
Pick your favorite freedom and then imagine that the federal troops decide it needs to be curbed by force of arms.

No thanks.   Keep the military out of it.

Katrina thugs shoot at federal troops... shooting war starts and anyone in the city becomes a target... bullets everywhere.  No thanks... can you imagine the carnage?  and who would sort out the rightious and the wrongfull deaths?

Really good personal injury lawyers that's who.

This is the reason the second amendment was made... to stop tyranny and to make sure that we outnumbered the army.... now we are giving them licence to shoot at us and round us up?

You know they ain't sending in unarmed federal troops right?

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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2005, 08:23:28 AM »
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Both I believe. Remember the lack of NG troops because the entire LA NG is in Iraq? (Ok, something over 1/3 of the LA guard is in Iraq)



See now this would also be an exellent arguement on why downsizing of the military (which I am always against) is a bad idea.

When its time to cut spending there are planety of BS programs that can be cut

Money to study the sexual habits of the elderly and such nonsence like that.

Several years ago there was a big tadoo over our budget and the current Gov wanted to cut funding of the arts but there was an uproar within the state government about it and it never got done.

I thought it was a good idea. Things like "the arts" are things that should be able to support themselves through private donations and not government funding.

Things like that crack me up.
They will cut funding for theings like education but god forbid we dont have "plays in the park"
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« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2005, 08:25:05 AM »
If police are afraid to enter certain parts of the ghettos in big cities.... wouldn't that be an emergency good enough to send in armed troops?

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