Author Topic: This Possible Law Change needs to beaten down while the thought is young! (Read 929 times)

Bodhi · « **Reply #30 on:** September 20, 2005, 11:53:05 AM »

good points. I will definitely be one of the people supporting the ACLU, if they stand up against it.

Sandman · « **Reply #31 on:** September 20, 2005, 12:02:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime

Sandy, it's far worse than 'the guy's a moron'. I think the guy is somebody's puppet. The biggest mystery now is just who is pulling the strings?

Follow the money.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #32 on:** September 20, 2005, 01:21:58 PM »

Figures. Naturally there was a whole load of pointing fingers, and dumb bellybutton citizens unable to lay the blame where it belongs.

First - 99% of the blame falls on those who stayed. Personal freedom, you excercised it to stay. You dun ****ed up. I'm sick and tired of reading how its a governments fault. With freedom comes responsibility, you ******s didn't excercise the latter while wanting the former and now we are all ****ed. Before anyone gets all upity over this, yes, I have been in the situation of having to evacuate due to a hurricane. And if the poor thing comes out, who the **** is too poor to walk?

Second - .9% of the blame falls on the city/state for being completely unorganized and incompetent in evacuating and expressing the direness of the situation.

Third - .1% falls on the federal for placing an inept fool in charge of a Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Very few if any will agree with me, but thats how it is. And now thanks to those who can't excercise personal responsibility to show they can handle freedom, we all may be completely screwed.
-SW

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #33 on:** September 20, 2005, 01:25:21 PM »

Amending or changing Posse Comitatus is a very bad idea and as usual it is unnecesary. This is only 'feel good' legislation.
The Predident has the right to send in federal troop within the U.S. under the Insurection Act. This was done during the LA riots. It could have been done for Katrina except as usual the lawyers got to involved. It has come to light that gangs of organized criminals came in to N.O. form other areas specifically to engage in looting. This was enough for the Pres. to invoke that act. Problem is this president and a lot of old timer Republican are still too afraid of the liberal press and the libs in Congress to do anything like this.

This is just another example of government CYA. For once I'd like to see a leader just do something and take the consequences like a man instead of taking the cautious approach and take the blame like a puss.

Just ask yourself, who would you trust least with this new law? Because they just may gain power some day.

AWMac · « **Reply #34 on:** September 20, 2005, 01:46:48 PM »

Toad,

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Actually, I expected to be clothed in the finest raiment, fed peeled grapes by scantily clad nubile young females and generally cared for as if I was a treasure beyond price from cradle to grave.

Mmmmm... Daddy Likes....

Sandman · « **Reply #35 on:** September 20, 2005, 02:00:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Clifra Jones

The Predident has the right to send in federal troop within the U.S. under the Insurection Act. This was done during the LA riots.

IIRC, the National Guard went in, not active duty.

Eagler · « **Reply #36 on:** September 20, 2005, 02:07:16 PM »

hmmm .. I didnt read the entire thread but...

are you saying the military should not be deployed if we have another terrorist attack? I think I saw m16's all over the place after 9/11 and I think you'll see them again after the next one...

what is the diff between the military and the coast guard or national guard or any reserve branch reponding ?

talk about knee jerk reactions, I think some in this thread are having one now...

Sandman · « **Reply #37 on:** September 20, 2005, 04:02:33 PM »

The difference was that 9/11 was an attack. If you'll recall, they also attacked a military installation.

midnight Target · « **Reply #38 on:** September 20, 2005, 04:36:52 PM »

He's too stupid to be a puppet.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 20, 2005, 04:58:07 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Figures. Naturally there was a whole load of pointing fingers, and dumb bellybutton citizens unable to lay the blame where it belongs.

First - 99% of the blame falls on those who stayed. Personal freedom, you excercised it to stay. You dun ****ed up. I'm sick and tired of reading how its a governments fault. With freedom comes responsibility, you ******s didn't excercise the latter while wanting the former and now we are all ****ed. Before anyone gets all upity over this, yes, I have been in the situation of having to evacuate due to a hurricane. And if the poor thing comes out, who the **** is too poor to walk?

Second - .9% of the blame falls on the city/state for being completely unorganized and incompetent in evacuating and expressing the direness of the situation.

Third - .1% falls on the federal for placing an inept fool in charge of a Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Very few if any will agree with me, but thats how it is. And now thanks to those who can't excercise personal responsibility to show they can handle freedom, we all may be completely screwed.
-SW

Well said Wulfie, and I agree with you.

Changing these laws is idiocy.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 20, 2005, 04:59:59 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
He's too stupid to be a puppet.

What about a sock puppet?

Bodhi · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2005, 12:56:20 AM »

You know, it has gotten really quiet in the news regarding this potential constitution change.

Makes me wonder what wheels are turning to make this happen in Congress.

Hopefully this is a dead dog. Our future rights depend on it's death.