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Offline wrag

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« on: September 20, 2005, 03:56:13 PM »
The news article tells how this woman survived an attack.

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050916/APN/509160943

Worlds MOST VIOLENT country according to a U.N. report.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1786945,00.html

interesting. and seems to go along with what some, including myself, that post on this BBS believe.

I'm sure some will have a statement claiming otherwise but if the shoe fits?????
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 04:18:01 PM »
Three cheers for the woman that took her own protection seriously and got the job done. One less wacko to to cause other women problems.

  As far the other story...surely the figures must be wrong. I mean, we have been told here on the BBS repeatedly that there was no violent crime to speak of in the places mentioned and absolutely no need for self or home protection. :)
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 04:48:41 PM »
According to the way they sampled the data the studies was made by some clowns.
As it was UN clown I must say it was certainly very expensives clowns !

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 05:12:34 PM »
Thanks for the link.  They were talking about this on the radio this morning and I've been looking for a copy of the story all day.

Of course, in typical form their first thought for a solution?  Ban alcohol and knives.  lol
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 05:19:05 PM »
"...limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem."

Bwahahahahahaha!  :rofl

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 05:20:03 PM »
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Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem.



We must Ban the Butterknife FOREVAR in the UK.

... and cut off their booze as well.

After all, if only one life is saved, it will be well worth it.


It's clear people dying or being seriously injured affects the rest of the UK population.

Avoidable knife/alcohol injuries put extra strain on our National Health Service. The presence of someone injured in a drunken Scottish brawl, in an NHS hospital, means that someone else somewhere down the line is not able to get treatment.

And if the person is killed, his life assurance has to pay out - a payment of many thousands of £/$/whatever. That means that they have to recover that cost - by higher premiums for everyone else.
Thus we are affected by the negligence of those who irresponsibly wield butterknives or drink themselves into a bread knife wielding rage.

Why should UK citizens have to pay higher life assurance premiums to guard against the life assurance company having to make a large payout on a death that could have been avoided?

Why should someone be denied hospital treatment because the last bed was taken by someone slashed with a steak knife in a Scottish pub?

That's why we have the The Criminal Justice Act  of 1988. I don't get this "freedom" thing. How does owning a butterknife or a steak knife seatbelt create more freedom? Either way, you have responsibilities to yourself and other knife or pub users. What can you do with a butterknife that you can't do with your fingers?

What we need are more laws to control sharp objects. These laws would make perfect sense.

Licensing the sale of non-domestic knives

Banning the purchase of non-domestic knives except from licensed sellers

Licensing the sale of swords, with an additional condition that retailers could only sell swords to members of approved organisations

A blanket ban on all swords with potential exceptions in the case of swords used for ceremonial, religious, sporting or cultural purposes.

Banning the sale of samurai swords

Licensing the purchase of swords on an individual basis
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 05:26:50 PM »
Dammit Toad. You beat me to it. :)
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 06:06:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Shuckins
"...limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem."

Bwahahahahahaha!  :rofl


watch it. Cricket bats may be next LOL

Then Pens and Pencils.

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 06:50:43 PM »
Wht not just make it illegal to attack someone? Wouldn't that solve the problem?

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2005, 09:12:04 PM »
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Wht not just make it illegal to attack someone? Wouldn't that solve the problem?


Stop trying to be logical.  What is needed here is some "feel good" legislation to ban something material and physical, something so they can put pictures up of the offending objects and focus the public on something besides the crappy job the people in charge do of preventing crime.

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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2005, 09:32:05 PM »
The second article makes sense.  Alcohol is a major contributor to voilent behavior and any country named after a type of whiskey must have a problem in that regard,
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2005, 10:55:01 PM »
BAN THE CRICKET BATS!!!!  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2005, 08:29:19 AM »
I don't see how, like a seatbelt law... taking away the privildge of drinking or the privilidge the government gives you to carry a knife can be considered to infringe on your freedom..

I don't drink anyway...  I mean... the savings in health insurance and medical bills will run into the bazillions... everyones rates will plummet.

but.. even if they left it alone... so what? sure it is a teensy bit humiliating and life threatening to be at the mercy of any thug or group of thugs that comes along and so what if it get's worse every day?

What is the alternative?  let people carry guns?  and have shootouts at every fender bender like in America in all the concealled carry states?  Sure.... crime goes down and self esteem goes up but at what cost?  Criminals are people too you know!

the UN is pushing gun control on a world scale.... you will be seeing a lot more of these articles... there can be no one world, powerful socialist government so long as the little pissant people are armed.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2005, 11:11:42 AM »
It's a culture thing.

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The study, by the UN’s crime research institute, found that 3 per cent of Scots had been victims of assault compared with 1.2 per cent in America and just 0.1 per cent in Japan, 0.2 per cent in Italy and 0.8 per cent in Austria. In England and Wales the figure was 2.8 per cent.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2005, 01:24:33 PM »
Culture thing eh?  Are you saying the Brits and Scots and Welsh are inherently more violent than Americans?  



Well, no wonder they had to take their guns away.  



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