New computer?

[JB42]

Trying to put together a new computer for around 800 clams. Here's what I came up with. Thoughts?

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor ADA3200BPBOX         

Motherboard: MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce3 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard         

Case: Chenming CMUI-601AEB-U-450SP4 Black 1.0 mm SECC Server Computer Case 450 W Power Supply   

Memory: Crucial 512MB 184-Oin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Model CT464Z40B.8T            

New card and drives I figure are pretty easy to figure out what to get, just wanted to get the main components out there.

[whels]

Originally posted by JB42
Trying to put together a new computer for around 800 clams. Here's what I came up with. Thoughts?

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor ADA3200BPBOX
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nothing wrong with Venice core, but if u can get a San deigo

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Motherboard: MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce3 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard         
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are you wanting to stay AGP video?  PCI-E is the new standard. if u want to stay MSI look at the K8N Neo 4  (Nforce 4 ).

i just installed a BFG Nforce4 MB, easiest install i ever had, not
1 problem.
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Case: Chenming CMUI-601AEB-U-450SP4 Black 1.0 mm SECC Server Computer Case 450 W Power Supply   

Memory: Crucial 512MB 184-Oin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Model CT464Z40B.8T            
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 if your running win XP, id get minimum of 1gig ram (2  512s)
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New card and drives I figure are pretty easy to figure out what to get, just wanted to get the main components out there.

Whels

[ramzey]

if you plan to stay with Agp, cheaper gonna be buy amd 64 for 754 around 120-150$ and get 1 gig of ram for about 70-80$

[JB42]

opps sorry, yes two sticks of the crucial RAM.

[Krusty]

Nvidia is a GREAT company, don't get me wrong, but their forte is GPUs, not mobos.

I've read a few reviews that did uptime comparisons between nvidia mobo chips and the intel chipset 815E whatever its called, and the intel chipsets seemed to be far more stable. If you can find one that's the same layout as this mobo but has a different chipset, I'd say go for the other chipset.

[boxboy28]

Krusty ............on offense , but INTEL DOESNT MAKE AMD CHIPSETS!    Nforce Chips sets run great for AMD boards (that ive dealt with, and will use in the next system i biuld)  When building an AMD system i suggest staying away from Via chipsets but thats just IMO.

[ramzey]

JB what is your price?
i had quite good deals in local Fry's promotions, not lastes but good to run AH and couple others games.
For all other not gaming purposes this equipment is more then enough

imho if you like to buy cheap, 939 is not worth to pay extra 100$. Cuz next year its gonna be oldtimer

[38ruk]

754 is a dead end , that being said, Agp isnt going to be far behind. I bought a 754 because i was staying AGP ,for the time being. The major difference between 754 and 939 is dual channel capabilty. So if your not going PCI Express and want to keep your AGP card 754 isnt that bad of a choice . As far as Nvida chipsets go , Ive been using them since the Nforce 1 boards , Havent had any real issues with them. It would take some pretty drastic increases by the other chipset makers to get me to switch . FWIW 38

[Krusty]

Originally posted by boxboy28
Krusty ............on offense , but INTEL DOESNT MAKE AMD CHIPSETS!    Nforce Chips sets run great for AMD boards (that ive dealt with, and will use in the next system i biuld)  When building an AMD system i suggest staying away from Via chipsets but thats just IMO.

Hrm.... you may be right.. from memory what I read was about Pentium chips. I didn't know that intel didn't make chips for AMD boards (rather petty of them lol!)

Thanks for the clarification!

[Krusty]

Originally posted by 38ruk
754 is a dead end , that being said, Agp isnt going to be far behind.

Have to disagree with your 38ruk. AGP isn't going to die out anytime soon. It'll be around at least 5+ years. Why? Because the market is saturated with AGP cards. With AGP mobos. And because currently even the highest end systems can't use up all the bandwidth that AGP allows, let alone what PCIe allows. Until such time as the AGP slot itself becomes a bottleneck, AGP will be around in spades.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by Krusty
Hrm.... you may be right.. from memory what I read was about Pentium chips. I didn't know that intel didn't make chips for AMD boards (rather petty of them lol!)

Thanks for the clarification!

He's right.  

AMD or Pentium, you can make arguments either way.  Both have their strengths and weaknesses.  For gaming the 64 is pretty much recognized as the king.  And if I'm going to build an AMD system, while others might argue their favorite, nForce boards are my board of choice, and the choice of most top manufacturers of boards designed for gaming.  The only thing to watch is that some manufacturers will use the nForce chipset for the motherboard, but use cheaper stuff for the onboard sound.  Make sure it has the nForce sound chip too.  Save you alot of headaches.

[38ruk]

Have to disagree with your 38ruk. AGP isn't going to die out anytime soon

Well i stated that badly.  The high end  gamer oriented cards are going to start to dry up, i havent seen a 7800 series card in AGP yet , not to say there isnt one , but it seems to be the trend. AGP will be around for along time , but it will be the lower end of the scale .... 38

[StarOfAfrica2]

Both ATI and Nvidia will be making AGP cards for at least another year and a half, maybe up to 3 years, depending on demand.  Motherboard manufacturers are also going to continue making a home for them.  As was pointed out though, the high end stuff is all going to be PCIe.  AGP is going to be for the mid-range and lower stuff only.

As for 754, its experiencing a resurgence as the cheap desktop board, replacing the Socket A.  The 939s are the high end boards, but with AMD producing a large variety of the new budget  Sempron 64s in socket 754 format, it is the buisness-class board of choice for now.  It will be around for awhile.  Of course you give up dual-channel memory with the 754, and it is limited in how much RAM you can add.  I think 2GB is the max on a 754 board, because they all have only 2 DIMM slots.