Author Topic: Jet Blue flight about to make "soft landing" at LAX (Read 1735 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #45 on:** September 22, 2005, 12:41:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Why? Burning the fuel off is simpler and safer than dealing with a dump.

If the plane can't dump fuel, the only thing they've lost is time.

Not to mention that in burning it off there is alwasy the possibility the malfunction might go away.

I wouldnt be in any rush to make a crash or emergancy landing untill I had to

IT also provides time to the other aircraft in the area to land and reroute other aircraft to other airports in case of a worst case scenareo

Charon · « **Reply #46 on:** September 22, 2005, 08:53:59 AM »

You couldn't have made a better landing. That was exceptional.

Charon

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 22, 2005, 09:11:49 AM »

"He (the pilot) joked that he was sorry he put the plane down 6 inches off the center line." - AP

Toad · « **Reply #48 on:** September 22, 2005, 09:23:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Exactly... Here's one... What if the fuel dump fails and begins an uncommanded fuel dump midway between LA and Hawaii?

Redundancy. Two separate valves have to be open to dump fuel from any tank. A single "uncommanded valve opening" won't do it.

Hawklore · « **Reply #49 on:** September 22, 2005, 09:42:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
"He (the pilot) joked that he was sorry he put the plane down 6 inches off the center line." - AP

That pilots is damn good..

And is being hailed a hero for putting it down so soft, so smooth, and so accuratly!

Amen!

A new age hero in a time in need of them.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #50 on:** September 22, 2005, 10:28:35 AM »

Sounds weird, but I was clapping and cheering (like a damn TD score) when they landed that thing safely, even though I suspected it was going to be a successful landing, that nose gear can handle twice the weight that its designed for.

Hangtime · « **Reply #51 on:** September 22, 2005, 10:45:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
"He (the pilot) joked that he was sorry he put the plane down 6 inches off the center line." - AP

Unknown to him, that flamable paint on the 'centerline' posed the largest risk of fire to the aircraft. Watch the landing replays closely. Scary.

Agree tho.. that pilot did some very professional aviating when the chips went down.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #52 on:** September 22, 2005, 11:09:12 AM »

I don't think it's a defect, I think it's one of the ground crew that didn't put the pin back after towing the plane. (Pin to be removed for towing to allow the nose wheel to swing freely).

BTW, do you know how anoying it is to try to buy food when every business is closed? I'm back from my flight, I hope my flight is not going to be canceled tonight, otherwise I'm stuck in Houston. At least I live in a brick building.

Toad · « **Reply #53 on:** September 22, 2005, 11:13:34 AM »

I think Frenchy has it.

It's critical; my airline had a policy that ground crew had to show the pin held with both hands flag extended, overhead before the Captain would give the acknowledgement that it was clear to push.

Sandman · « **Reply #54 on:** September 22, 2005, 11:22:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Redundancy. Two separate valves have to be open to dump fuel from any tank. A single "uncommanded valve opening" won't do it.

ATA · « **Reply #55 on:** September 22, 2005, 12:02:14 PM »

If it were there(pin),it proly gone with the front gear i think

Curval · « **Reply #56 on:** September 22, 2005, 12:14:10 PM »

"At least I live in a brick building."

I wouldn't put faith in bricks. What you need is a building made of blocks...concrete blocks.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #57 on:** September 22, 2005, 05:14:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Unknown to him, that flamable paint on the 'centerline' posed the largest risk of fire to the aircraft. Watch the landing replays closely. Scary.

Agree tho.. that pilot did some very professional aviating when the chips went down.

I wouldn't have noticed that if you didn't point it out. Every time the plane goes over the centerline strip is when it flames up.

Question to the rest:

If the gear pin was left in wouldn't that not allowed the pilot to steer with the nose gear?

If it was just a retract pin (like those I'm used to seeing on the F16 struts that keep the gear from collapsing on the ground) How would that have turned the thing sideways?

Toad · « **Reply #58 on:** September 22, 2005, 06:07:46 PM »

Yeah, it should have made the nws inop.

Guess we'll have to wait to see what really happened.

JTs · « **Reply #59 on:** September 22, 2005, 06:33:55 PM »

wonder if he is looking for a squad?