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Offline KD303

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« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2005, 06:32:11 AM »
Harris did tend to have tunnel vision. He does allude to his anti-lightbomber views in the quote I used. I was using what he said to illustrate the man-power point, not endorsing Harris, per say. Anyone with a real interest in Bomber Command's offensive in WWII might find it interesting to read his book, though it's heavy going, and not exactly a page turner. As long as his views are taken along with opposing views, (and everything inbetween) it helps to build up a picture of what really went on.
All kinds of bombers were proposed during WWII and most of them didn't get off the drawing board - remember the Victory Bomber? - so something new like the Mosquito wouldn't have neccessarily seemed like an obvious winner when it was first suggested.
I personally think the Mosquito was a great plane. A relative of mine flew in them for the Banff Strike Wing in NE Scotland against targets in Norway. I have a collection of gun camera prints that I inherited from him. Incredible pictures from his aircraft (and others in his squadron) making rocket attacks on shipping and an amazing shot of a Mossie attacking a surfaced U-boat in the North Sea.

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« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2005, 06:37:58 AM »
Yes Tilt, I know one person who was to go to pilot school but was diverted to WAG school.

This what BCATP graduated:

pilots - 49,808
navigator - 15,870
navigator 'B' - 9795
navigator 'W' - 4298
air bombers - 15,673
WAG - 18,496
AG - 14,996
flight engineers - 1913
naval AGs - 704

Was the Lanc needed? For sure, for its heavy lift capacity. Was the B-17/B-24 needed? Debatable.

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« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2005, 07:14:48 AM »
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A relative of mine flew in them for the Banff Strike Wing in NE Scotland against targets in Norway. I have a collection of gun camera prints that I inherited from him. Incredible pictures from his aircraft (and others in his squadron) making rocket attacks on shipping and an amazing shot of a Mossie attacking a surfaced U-boat in the North Sea.


And ofcourse you have a scanner and we can see those pics later today?:aok
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« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2005, 08:33:16 AM »
KD303:

If you haven't already done so, you *must* read "A Separate Little War", by Andrew Bird.

It is a detailed account of all of the Banff Wing's ops, with added info for the Dallachy Wing and the Mustangs, and includes wherever possible information from Norwegian and German sources.

Fabulous book.
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2005, 05:47:13 AM »
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And ofcourse you have a scanner and we can see those pics later today?:aok


I was thinking about that. They have Crown Copyright stamped on the back, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt. The surfaced U-boat picture appeared in a book (and probably others) some years ago and also appears on a website about the wing, but my copy is far better and was clearly taken from the negative, whereas the copies I've seen all seem to be copies of copies. I will hunt my collection of Banff pictures out and scan some and post them, as long as nobody tells on me! Some are small and some are about 10 by 10. I wish I knew more about them, though I know a fair bit about the Strike Wing and the various missions undertaken. The relative in question died a long time ago, hence me getting my grubby little hands on them, so I'm not sure if he was even on all the missions depicted in the Photos. I say that, because if he was, then he had a hell of a war! Most of the pics have the date and Lat and Long marked on them, so I could probably find out who flew which mission. He was a Nav, which must have been very, very scarey. The ops they flew to Norway were among the most hazardous the RAF regularly undertook - flying a Mossie or Beaufighter across the North Sea, attacking at low level with rockets and cannon then, maybe hit, nursing it back home again. If things went wrong, survival was very unlikely, though one or two crews were picked up by trawlers or Warwicks. Sometimes though, they'd have to land in "Brighton" (code word for landing in neutral Sweden).
 Ironically, I also inherited a photo album from him, which was full of photos of a cruise he went on to Norway just before the war. The final picture is of a beautiful Norwegian Fjord and underneath, he had written, " Until the next time."
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« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2005, 10:56:16 AM »
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KD303:

If you haven't already done so, you *must* read "A Separate Little War", by Andrew Bird.

It is a detailed account of all of the Banff Wing's ops, with added info for the Dallachy Wing and the Mustangs, and includes wherever possible information from Norwegian and German sources.

Fabulous book.


I have read it and it's very well researched. I also have some pictures from the Dallachy Strike Wing, though sadly none from the Peterhead Mustangs. When I get round to posting my Banff pics, I'll also post some Dallachy Beaufighter pics. I have a sequence taken from the gun cameras of different aircraft from 144 and 455 squadrons of a successful shipping strike in a Norwegian fjord in April '45 as well as others taken during what I believe was the last offensive RAF attack of the European war.