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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2005, 02:29:00 AM »
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So why did the LW use oxen to pull aircraft around the ramps?


Because they were lazy.

The manly British ground crews had to push the planes themselves. :D


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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2005, 01:26:02 PM »
The stocks available to the Kommandierender General der Deutschen Luftwaffe in Italy is for all his units, German and Italian. The Italians had no say in fuel useage.

The month of April 1945, started with 226,000l of B4, 125,000l of C3 and 341,000l of J2 in stock storage. On the April 10 C3 stock was 93 000l and there was a a rare delivery on the 14-15th to bring stock up to 132,000l.

As noted in one of Kurfy's other posts, or was it his K-4 article, the recon version of the G-10 should use C3. There was 8 G-10/R2 in Italy. BMW 801 powered a/c include 4 Fw190As and 11 Ju188s. With 26 BMW 801 engines requiring C3 it can be seen why C3 was sent to the Italian front, if these a/c were ever to fly.

This info came from a thread at 12 O'clock High, one of the 1/2 dozen or so boards he posted his latest revelations on.

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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2005, 05:36:01 AM »
Ju 188A and D used Jumo 213A engines that run on B4, not on C3 Milo.

It`s a bit dubious to use 45% of the whole fuel stock for a mere four 190s, isn`t it?
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2005, 06:27:06 AM »
Hehe, Otto, nice one :D
They are however turning the aircraft, not towing it.
Turning is rather easy, towing isn't
Turning is also done much easier this way than using the engine.
I bet the LW did this the exact way as well, form the start.
They still do it today, even at Duxford, when one has a squadron or two facing the ramp. The do have enough fuel today I belive :D
Actually, I have a very nice picture of dozens of WW2 fighters on the ramp, took it in 2000. Dump me yer email and I'll send it. That applies to Kuffie as well ;)
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2005, 07:01:35 AM »
otto@me-262.com :)

Btw. what vehicle did the British/Americans use to tow planes?

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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2005, 07:09:51 AM »
Hope you have a good virus checker Angus. :aok

Yes my mistake Kurfy on the Ju188.

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2005, 08:44:22 AM »
I have something better than that. lookie:http://www.mailwasher.net

Will mail today Otto,- my image is on another computer.
Duxford 2000, lucky me,- had a press pass.
BTW, fox might have some of my shots on his website.
He's got many really good ones BTW.
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2005, 08:47:24 AM »
Please send them at here too, Angus. Maybe I`ll send something interesting too. ;)

kurfurst@atw.hu, as always.
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2005, 10:37:45 AM »
RGR that, have many airshow photos, from my own, so feel free to hand them out.
What you would have liked is the 108 I saw once, but I didn't get a proper shot so no pic :(
But I have seen a Fokker Dr I doing a loopie !!!
You must visit Duxford, it rocks!

Pics some 2 hrs away.

you want some too Milo?
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2005, 10:43:02 AM »
sure Angus. :) They make good screen savers.

Did you get the cartoon?

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2005, 12:26:27 PM »
Mailing now, - check mail in 10 minutes or so.
Yep, just got the cartoon. Just started up this computer, - had to delete 250 messages, lol.
Mailwasher rocks :D

Milo, Kuffie, Otto, - you will have 2 pics each in the first message, - I'll browse some of my pics and find more if you like.
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2005, 12:38:42 PM »
Mails sent, successfully.
Enjoy.
I have Lizzie,Blenheim, B17, P47, Spits & Hurrys, Sopwith, Avro504 and probably some more flying, and lots static.

I saw F8F, F7F, F6F, F4U, Skyraider, Me108, P39 or 63, Yak-3, P40, P51 and perhaps more from WW2 and after (prop+piston engines) in the air that summer. The Spits were the only ones that would play though. The wildest one was a Griffon engined one, - would NOT have liked to have been in that cockpit.

From WWI there were Bristol fighters, Se5's, Sopwith Tripe and a Fokker DRI all flying
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)