Soviet planes

[mkaykov]

Before we add any new german planes, we should add a huge list of Soviet planes to aces High II. We should add at least all the russian planes that fighterace has.

Not that fighterace is bitter, aces high is the best, but...............

It would be nice to have a complete WWII plane collection in Aces High II.

[Karnak]

ToD will focus on the 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe ops in the west, so that seems to be the first priority.

[Angus]

Ok HTC!!!!
Second campaign: Blitzkrieg and BoB
Third campaign: USSR
Then: Pacific.

Okay with that HTC ) ??

[Whisky58]

Originally posted by mkaykov
Before we add any new german planes, we should add a huge list of Soviet planes to aces High II. We should add at least all the russian planes that fighterace has.

 

Yak 3 would be good - probably best Soviet fighter of WW2.  LW were instructed to avoid them if possible.

But........do we really need more late war high performance planes added to the list?

Also agree with what you say about FA vs AH.  Can I have a months free subscription please Hitech?

Regards

[Angus]

Yak-3, a nightmare for the faster aircraft.

[Kweassa]

Why would the Yak-3 be any more nightmare than the Yak-9U or the La-7?

[Angus]

It's faster than the other Yak and nimbler too

[1K3]

hmmmm Yak 3 is a goooood match for 109G-14:D

[Tilt]

Yak3 was not faster than the Yak9U..........

Its top speed was on a parr with the 9U at lower alts and the 9U is a bit superior (v speed) at mid and higher alts

The Yak3 had the older less powerful (vk105-2 1240hp)engine but was very light (2700 kg)and nimble.

Hence comparing it to the Yak9U (VK107 1500hp @3200kg) the yak3 would accelerate slightly better low down...it turned better....... (20 v 17 secs)

Roughly stated the yak3/yak9U comparison is not alot different from comparing the SpitV/SpitIX.

However the Yak3 is a far more representative 1944 Yak as it was available from early spring 44 where as the 9U was not in combat until late August 44 (after 15 months trying to get the VK107 1500hp reliable) and not assessed  (and approved) for wide spread combat use until October 44.

The  Yak3 is the architypal furballers aircraft.

[Whisky58]

.....by 1944 a general directive had gone out to LW units on the Eastern Front to "avoid combat below 5000m with Yakolev fighters lacking an oil cooler under the nose".  (ie Yak 3)

.....offered all available Soviet, British or American fighters, the Normandie-Niemen Group changed from the Yak-9 to the Yak-3...

(From Gunston's Fighting Aircraft of WW2)

I'd be interested to know what types were included & offered to the Frenchies in the "all available" list.

Any ideas fellas ?

Regards

[Loddar]

It's not a direct answer to the soviet planes thread.

The MA flyers use top notch and only few
survive in mid or early war planes. Most
of the players are in the MA. Only a
handful in SO or in events.

For that, why will HT bring early and mid
war planes in AH ? As hangarqueens ?
For ToD ? Other planes not in the planeset
are always subbed with others.

[Krusty]

Loddar, consider that in the real war there were hundreds upon hundreds of aircraft, and AH has only about 70+ or so. It is going to take some time, but more planes will be added. I think AH is comitted to rounding out the planeset as much as it can (why else is there a b5n? Why else is there an SBD? Why else have a spit1?), but it will take time.

And scenarios, historic matchups and the CT (not to mention TOD) are an important part of AH. Sure most of the players fly in the MA, but where do you think the pilots from the CT, the SEA and the TOD are going to come from? They will be pilots that also fly the MA, but want more historical set-ups.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Whisky58
[B.....offered all available Soviet, British or American fighters, the Normandie-Niemen Group changed from the Yak-9 to the Yak-3...

I'd be interested to know what types were included & offered to the Frenchies in the "all available" list.

[/B]

This was late spring 44 and they were largely upgrading from a mixed bag of Yak9T's and Yak 9D's the list was

Soviet.
Yak3 (new)
La5fn(about to be replaced)
Yak9's( they had them already)

British (in Russia)
SpitVb  (these had already served a year in the VVS and were 2nd hand originally anyway and all Spifires were disliked by the VVS as unreliable, delicate machines)

US
P39

The choice at that time was a no brainer

[straffo]

Originally posted by Whisky58
.....by 1944 a general directive had gone out to LW units on the Eastern Front to "avoid combat below 5000m with Yakolev fighters lacking an oil cooler under the nose".  (ie Yak 3)

.....offered all available Soviet, British or American fighters, the Normandie-Niemen Group changed from the Yak-9 to the Yak-3...

(From Gunston's Fighting Aircraft of WW2)

I'd be interested to know what types were included & offered to the Frenchies in the "all available" list.

Any ideas fellas ?

Regards

Well the quote is misleading. it was not a choice between Yak 3 and other soviet, british or american hardware but  quite early before the availability of the Yak3 in winter 1942.

From my bad memory it was between Hurrican , P39 ,Lagg ,Mig ...

[Krusty]

We already have the best '44 and '45 planes the vvs could put forward. No more uber planes. We need the lagg and maybe the yak1 and things that mid-war scenarios and setups would use.