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« on: September 29, 2005, 11:45:21 AM »
Well, he got in without ever telling anyone what he really thinks.

The result of Borking is clearly evident.

I certainly have no idea how Roberts will turn out as Chief Justice.

78-22 confirmation.

The "nays"...

California: both Boxer and Feinstein.
Delaware: Biden
Hawaii: both Inouye and Akaka
Illinois: Both Obama and Durbin
Indiana: Bayh
Iowa: Harkin
Maryland: both Milkulski and Sarbanes
Massachusetts:both Kerry and Kennedy
Michigan: Stabenow
Minnesota: Dayton
Nevada: Reid
New Jersey: both Lautenberg and Corzine
New York: both Shumer and Clinton
Rhode Island: Reed
Washington: Cantwell

Pretty much a "blue state" thing, so I guess it will turn out OK. If those folks don't like him, I probably will.

Still, he's in for life now. We'll just have to wait and see what he really thinks. Looks like everyone's learned how not to get Borked now.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 12:06:47 PM »
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Massachusetts:both Kerry and Kennedy


wow - to think we could have had a teddy think alike as POTUS

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Re: Roberts confirmed.
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2005, 01:09:08 PM »
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Well, he got in without ever telling anyone what he really thinks.

 


What he thinks doesn't matter.

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2005, 01:16:48 PM »
His personal opinions on things do not matter in general.  In specific, however, his opinion on the methods used to perform as a judge DO matter.  

Basically, if he thinks that calico cats should be executed by law, who cares?  I trust his professionalism to oversee the great Calico Debate of 2007 without regard to his personal opinion.

If, however, he thinks that it is the role of a Supreme Court justice to take steps to 'legislate from the bench' and disregard the rules of the court when the issue comes up so that he can implement his opinion, that's the problem.

The guy seems pretty stand-up to me so far, I haven't heard anything that makes me think he'll do a bad job, the above is just my interpretation of the sentiment behind the "without telling anyone what he really thinks" concern is.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2005, 01:41:41 PM »
I am pleased this day.  Blessed are we that Kerry was defeated.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2005, 02:17:05 PM »
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I haven't heard anything that makes me think he'll do a bad job,  


Exactly. No one has heard anything about anything.

The point is the Senate Inquisitions have schooled potential judges very well.

Those that pass have no revealing record and make no revealing comments.

I don't think anyone has a clue how Roberts will rule from the bench. Conservatives could be in for as much of a suprise as Liberals. But he's annointed now; Long Live the Chief Justice.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2005, 02:30:32 PM »
Personally, I think that a proven track record of a very high level of competency in the practice of law, adherence to the rule of law and the constitution, and a record and ideals free of judicial activism or legislation from the bench and a personal life that is beyond reproach, ie, high moral character, is all that any otherwise qualified nominee for Supreme Court should have to show.

If personal views of nominees were free to be scrutinized by the politicians it would wind up being a purely partisan thing, depending on which party has the majority, and just as important, it could predjudice cases that come before them, as has been pointed out.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2005, 02:38:42 PM »
Roberts spent most of his legal career representing others, not on the bench.

He was appointed to the District of Columbia Circuit two years ago. IIRC, that's his only "bench" experience.

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Roberts has participated in more than 300 decisions and orders since joining the D.C. Circuit in May 2003. He has written majority opinions for the court in 40 of those cases, according to the Justice Department.

Because of the D.C. Circuit's jurisdiction over federal regulatory agencies, its docket is heavy on technical cases not likely to cause controversy at Roberts's upcoming confirmation hearings.



40 opinions written; Chief Justice for life.

I dunno.... I'd have liked to see someone with a bit more of a known track record. But... LLtCJ.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2005, 07:05:27 PM »
I feel he has a good head on his sholders.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2005, 07:29:56 PM »
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What he thinks doesn't matter.

You can't be serious. We won't know what he thinks until it affects our daily lives. That's pretty scary.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2005, 07:46:28 PM »
From what I've heard from him I like.  He looks, sounds, and speaks like an honest level headed person who has as much respect for the law as his personal "ideals".

He seems like a judge that could benifit either party depending the way he sees  the constitution.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2005, 11:00:08 PM »
If he values precedent as much as he went on about it, I don't see a lot to worry about.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2005, 11:35:04 PM »
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If he values precedent as much as he went on about it, I don't see a lot to worry about.


And THATS what scares the hell outta me. There's a lotta truly screwed up precedents out there. Presidents too.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2005, 11:41:23 PM »
There's probably some precedents that need unprecedented overturning.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2005, 11:51:57 PM »
In other words, you guys are in favor of "activist judges"?
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