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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2005, 02:19:58 AM »
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In or out of the Union I want out of kalifornia...  The politics of women and whiners is and nannies is way too much for me.

vermont won't leave... No back east states will..  I would put my money on arizona, texas or montana.... with Utah and idaho maybe..

problem is... they would none of them be able to stand up against the forces sent in to arrest their entire political body.

lazs


Want some cheese with that? ;)
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2005, 03:08:24 AM »
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I hope its Massachusetts, so we would no longer have to stomach Ted Kennedy in our congress.
More likely, the state would split in two.  The LEFT  half is really the RIGHT half.

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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2005, 04:00:14 AM »
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Germany is smaller than Oregon
No it isn't.

Oregon = 96,003 sq. miles. Germany = 138,174 sq. miles.

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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2005, 04:17:59 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2005, 08:04:06 AM »
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mexico would probly invade us. thatd be a tough fight at the beginning.
 


LOL
Three donkies and a can of Villa mustache wax does not an invasion make. The rest of the country is here allready. :)
  An invasion problem would come from a bit further south than Mexico. Distribution point comes to mind. It would be another gold rush...........only it would be a white rush. :)
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2005, 08:13:35 AM »
I think the District of Columbia left us all years ago.:p

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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2005, 09:12:33 AM »
what would probly work best is if the country split in two with the red and blues states making up the two countries...   I think the idealogical split between red and blue is too great to reconcile.

tikky... ahhnald is an improvement but not enough of one to save kalifornia.

Notice that it is the socialists that want to keep the union together?  they need us more than we need them.

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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2005, 09:51:49 AM »
Vermont actually has a grass-roots indepenence movement in place... sounds a lil freaky-deaky. Any other states have a developed program and platform in place?

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The Second Vermont Republic is a peaceful, democratic, grassroots solidarity movement committed to the return of Vermont to its rightful status as an independent republic as was the case in 1791 and to support Vermont's future development as a separate, sustainable nation-state. Members of the Second Vermont Republic subscribe to the following principles:

Political Independence. Our primary objective is to extricate Vermont peacefully from the United States as soon as possible.
 
Direct Democracy. Vermont's strong democratic tradition is grounded in its town meetings which have served as the state's political mainstay for over two centuries. We favor devolution of power from the federal and state governments back to local communities and the extension of participatory democracy to the workplace and the farm..

Sustainability. We celebrate and support Vermont's small, clean, green, sustainable, socially responsible towns, farms, businesses, schools, and churches. We encourage family owned farms and businesses to produce innovative, premium-quality, high-value added, healthy products. We also believe that energy independence is an essential goal towards which to strive.

Economic Solidarity. We encourage Vermonters to buy locally produced products from small local merchants rather than from giant, out-of-state mega stores. We support trade with nearby states and provinces.

Quality Education. We would return to local Vermont communities the control and financing of small local schools.
Wellness. We encourage small locally controlled health care systems similar to those found in Switzerland in which, unlike the United States, patients, physicians, clinics, hospitals, and insurance providers are all in community with one another.
Nonviolence. Consistent with Vermont's long history of nonviolence, we do not condone state-sponsored violence inflicted either by military or law enforcement officials. However, we do support a voluntary citizens' militia to restore order in the event of political unrest or natural disasters. We are unconditionally opposed to any form of military conscription.


This is also one of only two states without a permit requirement for weapons, including handguns. Concelaed carry without a permit. Handgun purchase without permit. No waiting periods. No restrictions on quantity purchases. My, my. Imagine that. And it's about two hours drive north of here...

Hmmmm... looks like the east does have an oasis of freedom.
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2005, 10:19:11 AM »
Vermonters ......... is that a word? ......... have always been a bit on the "freaky" side, but in a good way (IMO).  Perhaps it comes from having such a small state.  The way one man put it is, its like being all part of a family (talking about politics in Vermont).  Everyone knows everybody else, so you dont go to bed mad at each other.  You just naturally have to work things out or you dont get along in politics in Vermont.  That said, they also support the widest variety of political parties active in one state legislature at once.  They have Communists and Libertarians and Independents and Democrats and Republicans and a couple of other smaller parties I cant remember at the moment, and all of them seem to work together despite their different ideologies to get things done.  From the sense I can get of it, their motto should be "Do whatever you like, as long as it doesnt infringe on anyone else's right to do what they like.  Then we have a problem."

And while you are admiring that wonderful Pro-Gun atmosphere there, just remember that the Gov. of Vermont was once the same Howard Dean everyone makes so much fun of now.

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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2005, 10:40:53 AM »
Anybody got any dirt on Dean beyond his 'Heyyyyyah' demeanor in a national primary?

The guy doesn't act Presedential. Big freakin deal. He's been a staunch supporter of personal freedom regardless of his fopah's on national TV. He never screwed his constituents as far as I'm aware.

A politician that stays 'bought' is beyond price in the trenches behind closed doors.
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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2005, 11:53:51 AM »
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A politician that stays 'bought' is beyond price in the trenches behind closed doors.


By staying "bought", are you refering to him trying to put forth the idea that George Bush knew 911 was going to happen and did nothing to stop it?

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« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2005, 12:16:04 PM »
Enh?

You got an actual quote, in context? Or is this just a talking head's take on a partisan viewpoint?
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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2005, 02:11:24 PM »
It did happen on one of the talking head shows like Meet The Press, Face the Nation or some other political news show.

It was the Bob Novak Show heres a link .

http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/03/12/far03006.html

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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2005, 02:28:56 PM »
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Kalifornia would have to be high on the list.  We pay almost $2k per person more to DC than we get back.  The rest of the country is holding us back economically.  We could pay our entire state government budget with that money.  We are supporting quite a few "red states".  You're welcome, for now.


http://www.weneedafence.com have the right idea for Cali.

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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2005, 02:54:55 PM »
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Kalifornia would have to be high on the list.


Good riddance... a cesspool of humanity


secede

not  suceed


Im still laffin at this....
Steve, I can't tell you how happy I am to read you dislike californians. Cold hard fact for you here Steve-

 thousands and thousands of Californians are selling their homes here in Cali. for 3-4 times what they paid. And buying homes outright in AZ, sometimes 3-4 homes so they can retire on the positive cash flow. Think about that while your at work ;)

So Steve, are you going to stay in "New California"? or where will you move to? :rofl