Author Topic: Quick thought on the new Spits (Read 2562 times)

Kev367th · « **on:** October 02, 2005, 08:01:51 PM »

Assuming we get both the VIII and XVI and we already know the XVI is going to be clipped.

How about clipping the VIII also, just so that the XVI isn't instantly recognizable as a XVI because it's the only clipped Spit.
Or if the new V is an LF, clip that instead of the VIII.

Still hoping Pyro has a change of mind and does the XVI as a bubbletop

. (paves the way further down the line for an F.21 (quad hizookas) or a bubbletop XIV)

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2005, 08:11:42 PM »

Noooooooooo!!!!!!

I really dislike how clipped wing Spits look. That is one reason I would pick the VIII over the XVI. I also prefer what I think of as the classic armament of two 20mm cannon and four .303 machine guns. I know the two 20s and two 50s are better, but it is my preference.

I also seem to recall that most VIIIs were not clipped. Dan'd know for sure.

Clipping the V would not work either as it is needed for '41 and early '42, before they started clipping wings.

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2005, 08:18:49 PM »

Consider that before the icons it was hard to distinguish between a 109E and a 109F/G until EXTREMELY close range. Even then you had to get a top-down planform view of the sucker to distinguish it.

If there *IS* a VIII, I think it needs to be non-clipped to make it different. If there's a VIII and an XVI and both are at the same boost and both are clipped wing, what's the point? If one is clipped and the other is not it brings greater variety.

That is, of course, if we get the spit8 at all.

Kev367th · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2005, 08:40:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Noooooooooo!!!!!!

I really dislike how clipped wing Spits look. That is one reason I would pick the VIII over the XVI. I also prefer what I think of as the classic armament of two 20mm cannon and four .303 machine guns. I know the two 20s and two 50s are better, but it is my preference.

I also seem to recall that most VIIIs were not clipped. Dan'd know for sure.

Clipping the V would not work either as it is needed for '41 and early '42, before they started clipping wings.

Think thats the problem with clipped -
It was done usually at unit level as and when required, only ones I know of that were ALL produced clipped as standard were the XII's and XVI's. Even then standard tips could be fitted as the situation needed.

Krusty - That was my thought exactly, no point having the VIII if the XVI is at 18lbs. Just have to wait and see what Pyro comes up with.
Maybe he'll surpirse us with either a 25lbs XVI and an 18lbs VIII, or a XVI and a XII (oh I wish)

Hoping the apparent lag of the Spits behind the 109's is that something 'special' is on the way

Squire · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2005, 09:06:55 PM »

Doesnt seem like there were a lot of clipped VIIIs. Yes, I know there were a # of them...but the "typical VIII" was a standard wing version, MED and BURMA.

For that reason, I would hope it is a standard wing VIII.

Im really not for going with the "most exotic" over the "most common".

But thats just me. I will be happy with either really.

Clipped wing XVI makes more sense, if we get both. If.

1K3 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2005, 09:54:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th

Krusty - That was my thought exactly, no point having the VIII if the XVI is at 18lbs. Just have to wait and see what Pyro comes up with.
Maybe he'll surpirse us with either a 25lbs XVI and an 18lbs VIII, or a XVI and a XII (oh I wish)

Nothing is lost. wee need the VIII for PAC setups. If i remember, the VIII had wing fuel takns so it can cover long range CAPs, ect on PAC ops. It would be best if the VIII had default pacific RAF skin.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2005, 11:35:55 PM »

Leave the VIII with a standard wing. Most had em. Not many clipped VIIIs at all.

Who cares if they know it's an LFXVIe

Better alternative would be having a clipped Vb too.

But I'd take any LF Merlin 66/266 Spit variant at this point, even if it was just one of the 3 LFVIII, LFIX or LFXVI

Bruno · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2005, 12:17:45 AM »

Clipped-wing LF.XVIE with bubble top just 'cause it looks cool...

Angus · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2005, 03:42:48 AM »

The clipping option should be in the Hangar.
Just my 2 cents

moot · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2005, 04:43:34 AM »

^ I concur ^

Kev367th · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2005, 09:41:11 AM »

I thought about clipping option in the hanger but apparently it can't be done.
It means loading a different FM.

I thought you could give a choice of LF, F, or HF engines and clipped, standard, or extended wingtips in the hanger.

Angus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:09:02 AM »

Why not?
Various loads are all calculated into the FM
Various damage also gets calculated - included is the loss of a wing or two, so I think it should be doable.
But we won't probably get it anyway. So I gree with some above,- that they don't clip the VIII.

moot · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2005, 01:56:18 AM »

Well is it so complicated that we couldn't have both versions for each model concerned?

Noir · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2005, 07:28:24 PM »

and the high alt wings huh ? a spit with large wings should be a beast in turnfights at sea level lol

Capz · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2005, 01:13:38 AM »

Personally, I like the clipped wings, dunno why everyone wants standard?