Author Topic: graf's (first) 190a5 (Read 1307 times)

Krusty · « **on:** October 02, 2005, 10:58:13 PM »

This is the first one, without the bright yellow on the cowling. I've still got to tweak the camo a lot and the weathering layers are all turned off. This is just a preview.

I need some help, though. When Graf was flying this 190 he was in the "Jagd Erganzungsgruppe Ost" which if I recall is some sort of development/training unit. One webpage I searched listed him as being in: "JGr Ost" -- but I'm not sure if that's a real abbreviation. Is this the proper unit, and how do I list his squad for the 190a5.txt file??

Also, does anybody have a close-up picture of the white circles with "202" in it and green laurel leaves around it? Or something similar that I can make my own based on it?

Krusty · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2005, 12:36:08 AM »

camo's looking better

straffo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2005, 02:24:17 AM »

look good but (there is allways a "but"

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The medium gray look a bit to light and the light gray is too light (IMO of course

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Why the white border around the red petal on the cowling ?

Krusty · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:48:46 AM »

Only one source does *not* have the white border, and that is the profile I posted for comparison. All others, including scale model decals, and even the later model with the yellow cowling all have a white border. So I put it in.

I'm worried that maybe the greys are a little too light. I have a B&W picture of the real deal (the one with the yellow cowling) and it's not such a dark color. The colors are all rather light, despite the picture's contrast being too harsh.

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2005, 02:48:05 PM »

Is this better? It seems to better match the proper colors of the time, but I'm not sure if its lost something in the transition to darker greys.

Blixen · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2005, 05:59:17 PM »

can u use iron cross on tail it looks bare imo

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2005, 11:22:44 PM »

iron cross would look totally out of place on the tail. Unfortunately that's the way it has to look. I just hope that when I put on the circle with "202" in it on the rudder it will help allieviate the problem.

Citabria · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2005, 01:10:18 AM »

put a black square on the tail thats legal

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2005, 02:04:14 AM »

Yeah but it looks funny.

like this:

straffo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2005, 02:54:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Only one source does *not* have the white border, and that is the profile I posted for comparison. All others, including scale model decals, and even the later model with the yellow cowling all have a white border. So I put it in.

All right.

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I'm worried that maybe the greys are a little too light. I have a B&W picture of the real deal (the one with the yellow cowling) and it's not such a dark color. The colors are all rather light, despite the picture's contrast being too harsh. [/B]

Well I won't trust a old B&W picture for contrast (expecially an old film) the best way to do it is to do it acocording to your feeling

(I know it don't really help)

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2005, 10:50:06 AM »

Good point. That actually does help a bit.

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2005, 03:09:04 PM »

I think I'm done.

Also got a pretty cool action shot offline.

Will post some finalized pics later, now have other things to get ready for.

SkyChimp · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2005, 04:15:42 PM »

Way too clean lol...

Citabria · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2005, 06:12:14 PM »

try a different material setting.

its got no shading it seems

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2005, 08:35:17 PM »

1) It's too "clean" because that image is washed out (looking at the sun). It's got weathering on it, stains and discolorations, but this is a plane from the time when the LW kept good care of their front line fighters, so I didn't go overboard.

2) 190s don't use the materials file. That's only for planes with BMF.