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Offline sgtdeaux

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Reasons to add the B-29
« on: October 07, 2005, 04:52:17 AM »
People's current complaint about bombers is the dive bombing that occurs by people who exploit the games inability to control people who are unwilling to play the game with historical accuracy.
If a B-29 is added and perked say 100 perks for a formation.. this would encourage people to use the high altitude of the B-29 for strategic bombing.
The german interception planes designed for this role would then play a bigger role in the game.
With the current system of respawn times.. there is little if no reason for someone to climb to 25k in a formation of bombers only to have to fight off the same guy 10 times on your way to the target.. eventually the eternal upper interceptor wins.
The UBER bomber effect that the fighter plebians in this game fear is hardly an issue here.  with the number of people scrambling interceptors to the number of people who actually use heavy bomber formations the effect of the B-29 on the overall game will only add balance not chaos.
One point I really want to make here is NO NUKES.  In this game weapons systems and airplanes not in heavy useage during the war are not in the game... history shows that only two nuclear devices where ever fielded therefore this is not a "mass use weapon."  And to you nay sayer fighter pukes.. remember you got all you wanted for xmas.. 262, 163, every oddball vauge version of the 109 and unperked LA7 noob machines.
its about time for the bomber jocks to get some toys too :)

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 04:59:06 AM »
We got another B-29 requester!

Dang I should've placed a bet on 20 B-29 askers this week instead of 15...

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 05:02:25 AM »
squeeky wheels get grease.

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 05:04:25 AM »
Yes for B-29

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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 11:29:16 AM »
Okay... so you can already flatten an entire town in 1 pass with the semi-uber B24... You can drop every FH on a field with one formation. You can carry more pounts than a B17 and do it faster higher and for longer range....


And you want a plane that can carry 17,000lbs up to 30k and have it allow formations???

And you say it will "add" balance?!?!?

Not sure what you're smoking, but might want to ask your doctor about it.


P.S. I'm no "fighter jock" -- I do my share of fightes and bombers both, but I think you don't ever fly fighters. To be "intercepted by the same reupping interceptor"? HAH.. You get 1 chance. After that the plane is too high and too fast to intercept. You can't even climb to alt before he's halfway across the sector. Forget about trying to get him before he drops his bombload. You're making fiction up here, it never happens that way.

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 02:21:49 PM »
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Okay... so you can already flatten an entire town in 1 pass with the semi-uber B24... You can drop every FH on a field with one formation. You can carry more pounts than a B17 and do it faster higher and for longer range....


And you want a plane that can carry 17,000lbs up to 30k and have it allow formations???

And you say it will "add" balance?!?!?

Not sure what you're smoking, but might want to ask your doctor about it.


P.S. I'm no "fighter jock" -- I do my share of fightes and bombers both, but I think you don't ever fly fighters. To be "intercepted by the same reupping interceptor"? HAH.. You get 1 chance. After that the plane is too high and too fast to intercept. You can't even climb to alt before he's halfway across the sector. Forget about trying to get him before he drops his bombload. You're making fiction up here, it never happens that way.


no, hes completely right that bombers are far too easy to kill. the b24's may have super uber guns, but if you know how, theyre dead the moment you get the icon :D

the reason for this is that in ah, noone flys missions or escort. a single set of bombers are toast. b29's should be introduced, but they will be very hard to do, with the remote guns and all, and its not something HTC need right now, with ToD coming up. maybe some time in the future, but not now.

krusty, even a set of b29's are easy prey.

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 05:55:13 PM »
I want strategic targets first, then new bombers.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 07:35:32 PM »
zOMFG!one!1!#@#!@! NOoOK.....


Sorry guys, I just can't do. I'm just not feeling it, maybe later:D
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2005, 10:22:59 PM »
poor baby (gives Dud a sixpack) come back after you finish that and you'll be about the right IQ level to carry on. :lol

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Re: Reasons to add the B-29
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2005, 11:03:39 PM »
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Originally posted by sgtdeaux
People's current complaint about bombers is the dive bombing that occurs by people who exploit the games inability to control people who are unwilling to play the game with historical accuracy.
If a B-29 is added and perked say 100 perks for a formation.. this would encourage people to use the high altitude of the B-29 for strategic bombing.
The german interception planes designed for this role would then play a bigger role in the game.
With the current system of respawn times.. there is little if no reason for someone to climb to 25k in a formation of bombers only to have to fight off the same guy 10 times on your way to the target.. eventually the eternal upper interceptor wins.
The UBER bomber effect that the fighter plebians in this game fear is hardly an issue here.  with the number of people scrambling interceptors to the number of people who actually use heavy bomber formations the effect of the B-29 on the overall game will only add balance not chaos.
One point I really want to make here is NO NUKES.  In this game weapons systems and airplanes not in heavy useage during the war are not in the game... history shows that only two nuclear devices where ever fielded therefore this is not a "mass use weapon."  And to you nay sayer fighter pukes.. remember you got all you wanted for xmas.. 262, 163, every oddball vauge version of the 109 and unperked LA7 noob machines.
its about time for the bomber jocks to get some toys too :)





Congrates sgtdeaux, you are the 45,987,769,096,950,001 person to request the B-29.  Your prize is...................



























Not getting the B-29!  Congrates!!!
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2005, 12:54:28 AM »
Bah we're geting the b29 (slips htc 20$)



Arrg not nuff..:p

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2005, 08:50:05 AM »
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every oddball vauge version of the 109


Exactly what 109 versions would be "oddball vauge".

E4, F4, G2, G6, G14 and K4. Although there are quite a few of them in the game (with the new release specially) non of them are oddball.

As for B29, the only planes capable of intercepting them would be 163's. Which means only B29's close to HQ would be intercepted.

If you have ever tried fighting bombers in AH at 30k+ you will know that the bombers usually and completely pwn the fighters up there thanks to their ability to turn and change direction without losing much altitude. A fighter doesn't stand a chance to get a good pass on a bomber since the bomber will only turn its tail to the fighter and then kill it.

262, Ta152, P47N, doesn't matter.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2005, 04:59:37 PM »
O hell, put the nuke in but, if its dropped on target, it kills everything and everyone around for a 15mi. radius including friendly. hehehehehe
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2005, 07:07:59 PM »
my view on the b29 is this...
the b29 played a major part in the pacific war..prob more so than any other aircraft..the japanese were developing planes to combat this threat.
basically the upshot is we cannot have TOD with out it..
i for one would welcome it into AH.. but with limitations. like for instance along the lines of the me163 only be available from certain bases far away from the front, country must have 30% of there start up bases , perk them..no formation option. and only conventional weapons

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2005, 10:19:57 PM »
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my view on the b29 is this...
the b29 played a major part in the pacific war..prob more so than any other aircraft..the japanese were developing planes to combat this threat.
basically the upshot is we cannot have TOD with out it..
i for one would welcome it into AH.. but with limitations. like for instance along the lines of the me163 only be available from certain bases far away from the front, country must have 30% of there start up bases , perk them..no formation option. and only conventional weapons


Good Suggestion SELECTOR - I'd like to see the 29 as you stated and obviously perk it too.