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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2005, 07:35:33 PM »
Ya, mace. lol. poor guys.

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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2005, 07:39:33 PM »
There is no such thing as a civilian carrying a gun in Hawaii.  Only police and uniformed armed security carry guns.  Irregardless of any criminal history, he couldnt carry a gun here anyway.

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2005, 07:51:37 PM »
the reason you don't have people like dog in yurop is because you are all sissys afraid of commiting crime. the prime minister will spank you :p

you don't need him

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2005, 07:56:20 PM »
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There is no such thing as a civilian carrying a gun in Hawaii.  Only police and uniformed armed security carry guns.  Irregardless of any criminal history, he couldnt carry a gun here anyway.


why not?
The constitution not apply to Hawaii?
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2005, 07:57:20 PM »
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the reason you don't have people like dog in yurop is because you are all sissys afraid of commiting crime. the prime minister will spank you :p

you don't need him


That would be an incentive I think for half the euro sissys here
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2005, 09:12:53 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
why not?
The constitution not apply to Hawaii?


If this isn't a rhetorical question... State law says:

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ยง134-9 Licenses to carry. (a) In an exceptional case, when an applicant shows reason to fear injury to the applicant's person or property, the chief of police of the appropriate county may grant a license to an applicant who is a citizen of the United States of the age of twenty-one years or more or to a duly accredited official representative of a foreign nation of the age of twenty-one years or more to carry a pistol or revolver and ammunition therefor concealed on the person within the county where the license is granted. Where the urgency or the need has been sufficiently indicated, the respective chief of police may grant to an applicant of good moral character who is a citizen of the United States of the age of twenty-one years or more, is engaged in the protection of life and property, and is not prohibited under section 134-7 from the ownership or possession of a firearm, a license to carry a pistol or revolver and ammunition therefor unconcealed on the person within the county where the license is granted. Unless renewed, the license shall expire one year from the date of issue.


I highlighted the important word.  To my limited knowledge no Chief has gone ahead and done this for the general population.  Packing.org goes ahead and forewarns anyone that if they try, it will be denied.  

As for "Dawg," yeah there's people like that everywhere - you shouldn't be surprised.
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2005, 09:54:26 PM »
Around here a lot of the bounty hunting teams will have one guy armed with CS only, of course his partner normaly has a gun.

A lot of times family members will jump in... you shoot granny with a .45, you got problems, and they know this, hose them down with CS, they seem to listen to  directions better.

If you notice, ol Dog and his team don't seem to go after many felony skips.

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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2005, 01:44:26 AM »
I have no problem with Dog and his preaching to druggies. After all he only goes after people losing HIM money. Or I'm sure he'd probably be packing.  It's his meatbag of a wife that's bothersome. Yikes :huh


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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2005, 09:10:32 AM »
No we are ordinary folk for the most part. But we make boring TV, so they put freaks on to entertain us.

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2005, 06:09:48 PM »
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If you notice, ol Dog and his team don't seem to go after many felony skips.

shamus


Yep... They generally hunt down perps that could be brought in with a cheeseburger on a string....

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2005, 06:48:08 PM »
i think slash is really dog :D  :p

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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2005, 07:07:41 PM »
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Originally posted by mauser
If this isn't a rhetorical question... State law says:



I highlighted the important word.  To my limited knowledge no Chief has gone ahead and done this for the general population.  Packing.org goes ahead and forewarns anyone that if they try, it will be denied.  

As for "Dawg," yeah there's people like that everywhere - you shouldn't be surprised.


And nobody has challenged this ruling?
Laz would be a better judge on this but looks to me to be unconsitutuional.

Though I dont see how anyone should be "granted a licence" for something that is their constitutional right.

as of the second ammendment

 2nd the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed

and could probably be reinforced with

9th
 which basically recognises Natural rights. The right of a person to defend themselves I think we all  would agree is a natural right

and

14th
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Could probably find a few more if I looked hard enough
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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2005, 01:08:09 AM »
Unfortunately, we have allowed several precedents to be established.  First we allowed cities to establish "no carry" laws within their limits, for the protection of its citizens.  It made sense 100-130 years ago when we had wide open towns at the end of cattle drives, men who hadnt seen a town (or a bottle) in months, with loads of money.  Lots of whiskey and beer + loaded guns + locals trying to keep their property in one piece = a tragedy waiting to happen.  

Then folks figured, if it works there, why it ought to follow that if we just make folks stop carrying guns altogether, it would do away with that pesky violence.  Right?  Yeah.  That has been borne out SO well huh?  But problem is, we allowed it, so it got even harder to reverse.  Before long, carrying a gun was seen as a privilege, like driving, and not a right.  Maybeso, in a totally civilized world.  Course, Man has proven himself at least partially immune to being civilized.  Still, it follows that if carryin a gun is a privilege, it should be allowed if licensed, right?  So now we have states that will allow you to carry a gun if you jump through the right hoops and get a license.  It allows the politicians who believe in the 2nd amendment to pat themselves on the back and say they did their part while not having to actually stand up to our loss of rights and be voted out of office by those who dont like guns.  

As an extrapolation of the idea that a state can license folks to carry a gun, you have two different paths of reasoning on how to decide to issue a permit or license.  SHALL ISSUE states beleive that so long as you pass the background checks and have a clean criminal record, and you wish to have such a permit or license, you should be granted one.  A MAY ISSUE state beleives that even if you pass the background checks with a clean criminal record, and even if you pass a course that proves you know how to handle and safely fire such a weapon, and even if you can provide proof you have carried one without mishap in another state, it is up to whoever is in charge of issuing the licenses to decide if you deserve one or not.  This allows the state full control over who gets one and who doesnt.  I think there is a rumor that since the law was passed, ONE person has been issued a permit to carry in Hawaii, and he was a former police officer.  There is no official record of this however, so it remains a rumor.  There has never been a verified case of a permit being issued.  

Its like the old saying goes that begins.......

When they came to take the Jews, I wasnt Jewish, so I didnt protest.

And so it goes.

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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2005, 04:18:18 AM »
In New Mexico we can carry guns. Some banks and stores do have signs telling us we're not allowed inside with one tho. Gee, I wonder why that is?:rofl

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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2005, 08:15:41 AM »
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Considering the average American Father is this. what do you expect?



Heh. Bet the Bounty hunter couldnt take him down alone



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