Author Topic: P-47 Question (Read 769 times)

Hornet33 · « **on:** October 12, 2005, 01:14:59 PM »

Looking for opinions on the P-47's in the game. I'm thinking of using one as my primary ride for the next couple of weeks or so (still learning the do's and don'ts of a majority of the plane set) and would like to hear what people think of the 47's. Pretty much want to know which one out of the four we have does it all well. I was flying the D-25 last night and was having pretty good luck with it.

Any tips, hints, or suggestions from the jugg community would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,:aok

SlapShot · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2005, 01:34:58 PM »

D-25 is my all-around P-47 favorite.

Tons of ammo (as they all have)

Turns well ... turns real well with flaps (D-11 is the best turner)

Hmmm ... they are all very good ... I just feel more comfortable in the D-25 for all-round flyin/fightin'

YMMV

Balsy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2005, 02:10:17 PM »

D11 is best for knife fiting, however it lacks in two areas:

1. Fuel--- short supply even with DT.
2. Views- Cage is somewhat restrictive in views.

Balsy

frank3 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2005, 02:13:49 PM »

If you want some succes with the P-47, get high and fast and DON'T turn alot, it'll loose speed very quickly (it's acceleration isn't that quick though)

I always found the D-30 very all-round, with some good armament and a strong engine (compared to D-11 and 25)

If you're looking for dogfights with the P-47, load few ammo, but I suggest you take all 8 guns, if you go for 6, you'd better fly the P-51

When in trouble, trow out a brick and fly in formation with it

hubsonfire · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2005, 02:33:04 PM »

D-11. If you're going to shoot someone down in a big, ugly fighter, you may as well be in the ugliest one of the bunch.

SlapShot · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2005, 02:50:57 PM »

I am not going to totally disagree with ya Frank, but some of my best flights in a P-47 has been down in the weeds.

It will surprise most at how nimble it is when slow and flaps have been deployed. Stall handling is fantastic in that plane ... as far as I am concerned.

Hap · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2005, 03:53:19 PM »

play with the ammo packages . . . note how weight or reduced weight affects performance. i did it offline and what the plane could do, which i thought impossible, surprised me.

~~hap~~

1K3 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2005, 04:28:36 PM »

so...

P-47N is now used as a bomber?

(PS it's a good "high-alt" bomber)

RedDg · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2005, 04:51:31 PM »

Get with the 56th FG and tag along with the best jug pilots in the game. YUCCA and Nomde are on quite a bit, are great sticks and good guys to boot. And if you can catch Frenchy online ask him for some tips, but I don't know how often he flies.

56th Fighter Group

Messiah · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2005, 05:34:49 PM »

fly it like a spitfire

Wolfala · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2005, 07:45:05 PM »

Like most varients the P-47 is an amalgam as it evolves. My main ride has turned into the P-47N from the P-38s I did before, but for different reasons. I love the P-38, I still fly the **** out of her - but there were a few reasons I did the P-47N over the P-38

* I found myself flying longer sorties. The P-47N on 50 % fuel and a centerline drop tank will go over 40 minutes. If you max MP with 2400 rpm in a climb, it'll go past that.

* It hauls bellybutton in the cruise mode around 13K - 30k. And you don't need to firewall it - 2400 rpm and 40 " MP is enough for a good 330 - 340 cruise.

* I found myself planning the flights more with an entrance and exit strategy.

General rules still apply to all P-47s and 38s alike. Speed 300 + before you commit to an engagement. Fight in the vertical at all times, if not possible you can turn inside with 1 or 2 notches of flaps but do it with a nose down attitude - not level turns. Push that WEP in the zoom climb, kill it over top, and push WEP on the downhill till u bust 300 and turn it off. Don't lead as much as you think you need to. Convergence set to 450 is more then enough - even if the guy is D600, the bullets will still take his wing off. You got a lot of bullets in the air at a time, around 100 per second - cockpit shots are your best friend. Speed Speed Speed - careful not to mush into the ground when you are slow and high AOA. Surprise spit 5's whenever possible. Use flaps with Spit 9s to gain the advantage. Club LA's and Typhoons whenever the chance permits. When out of options, push the nose over and haul ass.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2005, 08:00:17 PM »

Thanks for all the input guys. I really do appreciate it. Time to go out and see if I can fight this beast effectively.

If not I'll go back to my FM2 and plod along low and slow over the airfields waiting for the fight to come to me:D

bozon · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2005, 08:27:09 PM »

ok,

Turning - one of the most misunderstood properties of the jug. It doesn't really "turn" in term of degrees-per-sec but instead makes the enemy turn more by flying slower. This is the "geometry cheat" all good jug pilots use to knife fight and it makes "pull the stick to the belly" types go mad. Scissors will be your main defensive weapon.
You'll really have to sweat it out each fight in which you dont have the advantage - but that's the most fun!

Differences between D models are minor. Most significant in term of performance is the paddle blade prop on 25/40 that add ~400 fpm to climb and improved wep on the 40. The rest is mostly loadout selection and cosmetics.

The N is a slightly different beast but I have little experience with it. It felt actually worse than the Ds but it's faster and carries INSANE amount of fuel. For WEP in this plane it seems they replaced the water injection with espresso shots. It feels just wrong that on wep it makes 72" while mil power is only 55". Maybe one of the experts can confirm this.
edit: this is perhaps the only jug fast enough to make running away a viable option...

Bozon / ZAMS

Widewing · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2005, 11:17:10 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by bozon
this is perhaps the only jug fast enough to make running away a viable option...

Bozon / ZAMS

It's a dead heat between the P-47N and P-51D on the deck 366-367 mph for both. However, the P-47N will accelerate a bit faster (both at 50% gas).

My regards,

Widewing

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2005, 12:07:56 AM »

Except the P47N only has a few minutes of WEP, I think the pony has about 2x the duration for WEP, and after that the jug is just that, a flying jug.