Author Topic: Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?  (Read 7351 times)

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #285 on: January 26, 2006, 03:35:03 PM »
Kills will never be known for sure.
Both sides vastly inflated claims, to the point that at least the LW high command was convinced the RAF was down to few dozen planes.

Short of draining the English Channel I don't believe the true figures will EVER be known.

The only thing not in dispute is that the RAF inflicted heavy enough losses to win.
Gunther Rall even said the LW never fully recovered from the Battle of Britain.

Of course it's easy to 'hold your own' with a numerical advantage.
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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #286 on: January 26, 2006, 04:55:23 PM »
roughly 1200 to 800 I have

Compiling....
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« Reply #287 on: February 03, 2006, 01:45:41 PM »
Ok this will stay as main issue.
1. Number of aircraft clashing in the air, - RAF & LW
2. Usage of the different groups. and Luftflotten
3. Range of which RAF groups were vectored for interception.
4. Usage of Enigma to RAF high command (group leaders and Dowding)

And to some,,,,the outcome.

1. Claim by groups
2. Post war confirmed kills as compared to LW losses.
3. Blaims and theory, why Dowding and Park were demoted.

I'll post a link to the thread here anyway , when it pops up.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #288 on: February 03, 2006, 03:00:34 PM »
Get a copy of The Battle of Britain-Then and Now.

It covers all the losses with entries for each and the details on both sides including non combat losses.  It breaks them down by units on both sides.

We've been down that road before
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« Reply #289 on: February 05, 2006, 06:32:11 AM »
Did you see John Alcorn's study?
I have that, as well as some work of Shore. But thank's for the tip ;)
I bough a book recently, - John Ray's book about the BoB. It's mostly about Dowding and Park, the big wing contraversory and why Dowding and Park were moved. Anyway, one of the main reasons is failing to bring the full force of the RAF into the fray.
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« Reply #290 on: February 05, 2006, 06:36:17 AM »
Wow, 6 pages and have we "decided" on what the loadout was?

Just curious.

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« Reply #291 on: February 05, 2006, 06:26:37 PM »
Oh 60 rpg?

Got a wee hijacked. Well, just name a thread with 3+ pages...it definately got cooked up.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)