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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« on: October 14, 2005, 02:15:42 PM »
I saw Karnak posted that Spitfire Vbs only carrieed 120 rounds of cannon ammo BUT the new SCREENSHOT indicates the Spitfire Vb has 240 rounds of cannon ammo:huh

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2005, 02:45:35 PM »
Pyro hasn't had time to work on the model changes.  The rounds carried are not part of what the artists do, so count those numbers as place holders.
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Re: Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2005, 05:37:33 AM »
The B wing would only carry 60 rounds per gun for the cannons, ie. 120 rounds for two canons.
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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2005, 09:48:46 AM »
The pilot, if he would choose to, could load a lot more 20mm ammo in the cargo compartment.

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2005, 09:52:16 AM »
One of my books indicates that certain Spitfire V squadrons were able to carry 480 rounds of 20mm by storing extra belts in the wings and employing trained squirrels to move the belts into position at the proper time.  I feel that this should definately be simulated in the game.

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2005, 10:06:51 AM »
The Mk VIII carried 120 rds pro cannon.
Have to look into the older models, but anyway:
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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2005, 10:25:27 AM »
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One of my books indicates that certain Spitfire V squadrons were able to carry 480 rounds of 20mm by storing extra belts in the wings and employing trained squirrels to move the belts into position at the proper time.  I feel that this should definately be simulated in the game.


LOL, yours was better

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2005, 10:41:34 AM »
Much better to implicate non-drag gondies supplying a cooling radiator and a 1000 rpg of ammo :D
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Re: Re: Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 01:15:43 AM »
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The B wing would only carry 60 rounds per gun for the cannons, ie. 120 rounds for two canons.

Depends on the Hispano version in the b wing.  Hispano Mk I was drum fed and had only 60 rounds.  Hispano Mk II was belt fed and had 120 rounds.  later Mk Vb Spits had Hispano Mk IIs I believe.

AH reports all cannon ammo on Spits in one total, so you need to divide the ammo count by two to get the per gun ammo.  The current Mk V has 240 rounds, 120 per gun.  The new one will have 120 rounds, 60 per gun.  It will be a good 1941 Spitfire Mk V.
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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 01:57:36 AM »
Sorry if I've missed it Kar..

 ...where did anyone say we gonna have a true-blue '41 Spit?

 Just curious. :confused:

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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 05:04:44 AM »
The visual model has the bumps on both sides of the (B)wing - indicating that it has drum fed cannon.

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Re: Re: Re: Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 04:23:57 PM »
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The current Mk V has 240 rounds, 120 per gun.  The new one will have 120 rounds, 60 per gun.  It will be a good 1941 Spitfire Mk V.


For reals?:D Now i get to see why RAF hurried the new Spit 9 in action with better Merlin egnine and belt-fed cannons because they're being massacred by FW-190s and 109Gs. In AH2, more peeps prefer the current spit 5 than spit 9 because its faster and quicker in all departments.

Just like new spit 5, 109F-4's Gondolas will be deleted (backed by popular demand)... right?

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 04:56:37 PM »
I talked to Pyro on Thursday for about thirty minutes and one of the many things we talked about was the Spitfire Mk V changes.  It will be a Merlin 45 at +12lbs boost with two Hispano Mk I cannons (60rpg) and four .303s Spitfire Mk Vb.  I specifically confirmed that.

We also talked about some other things such as B-29s, flying boats, Mosquitos, Me410s and the Spitfire Mk VIII.
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Spitfire Vb: Did it carry 120 rnds OR 240 rnds of Cannons?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 06:47:39 PM »
Ahh.. cc, thx for the info.

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 09:00:55 PM »
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We also talked about some other things such as B-29s, flying boats, Mosquitos, Me410s and the Spitfire Mk VIII.


Feel free to elaborate.
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