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Offline Hajo

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« on: October 16, 2005, 10:05:10 PM »
Early Aces High.  When one or two planes looked for a fight.  Very few if any HO's.    No smack just a and a well done.  The Betas.  The Beta Map.  Beta for AHII when numbers were low and the veterans of the game spent a lot of time there furballing in everything against everyone.  Side swithcing in the Betas to balance the sides.  No Hordes.  If someone was trying a craft for their first ride in the beta and asked questions they were answered by all.  Winging with enemies from the MA in beta like Cavalier, YUCCA, Wilbus, StSanta, Saw, Apar, Citabria and Ripsnort.  Fllying against the Damned in Beta and having a blast.

What the hell happened?
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2005, 10:08:59 PM »
Strateegery.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2005, 10:18:17 PM »
Perks (think about it)
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Offline Treize69

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 10:25:26 PM »
The slow inexorable slide of Western Civilization?
Treize (pronounced 'trays')- because 'Treisprezece' is too long and even harder to pronounce.

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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 10:47:38 PM »
Plane match-ups used to make the game fun for me.  I remember flying around at 15k in a p38, and running into a group of 109's, usually belonging to a JG54 squad, or something of that nature.  Hell, any match-up that didn't involve a jet speed prop plane made my day.

I think thats a lost cause now, every other plane you see in MA is a la7.  I bet that each sortie you up, the chance of fighting a la7 is 90%.  How many planes do we have in this game?  It is used so much, its sickening.  I usually like to spend my free time online, wingin with squadmates, or just shootin the watermelon on the text buffer.  

Lately, I just log in disgust.
I blame everything on the la7.


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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 11:03:17 PM »
I think it has something to do with the average age of the Online Gamer.
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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 11:12:05 PM »
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Early Aces High.  When one or two planes looked for a fight.  Very few if any HO's.    No smack just a and a well done.  The Betas.  The Beta Map.  Beta for AHII when numbers were low and the veterans of the game spent a lot of time there furballing in everything against everyone.  Side swithcing in the Betas to balance the sides.  No Hordes.  If someone was trying a craft for their first ride in the beta and asked questions they were answered by all.  Winging with enemies from the MA in beta like Cavalier, YUCCA, Wilbus, StSanta, Saw, Apar, Citabria and Ripsnort.  Fllying against the Damned in Beta and having a blast.

What the hell happened?


I was an "Honorary Flying Circus" for 2 months in AH2 Beta.  Enjoyed it tremendously.

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2005, 11:12:27 PM »
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Lately, I just log in disgust.
I blame everything on the la7.


Tell it brother!
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Offline Howitzer

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 11:14:33 PM »
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I think it has something to do with the average age of the Online Gamer.


I think any stats on this would be speculatory if you are just talking about AH.  Many in here assume too much when guessing ages.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 11:24:34 PM »
Before i took my 5 month break, we (31st bomber barons) would have a blast flying P-51s against the JB's in their 109s and 190s.  Gave me goose bumps everytime we fought them.  Even now thinking about it, im getting goose bumps.  Around 20 P-51s against 20+ 190/109s!  God i miss it!!!  Hope its like that when i get my butt back into the MA!


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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 11:34:18 PM »
It wont be eagle, all you see is Las and Spits most of the time it seems. The only 190s I ever run into (aside from Doom in his A5, ) are D9s that only seem to know how to HO. And 90% of the 109s are G10s, which will only get worse when the K and G14 come out I fear.

One of the things that really bugs the heck out of me (my $.02) is that you'll have 3/4 of your "countrymen" furballing somewhere, then they all start screaming about nobody defending bases when "all of a sudden" they are losing fields all over the map. Then they all come tearing in to save the day, complain after 10 minutes that theres "no fight in these vulching/cherrypicking/etc [insert country here]", go back to furballing (usually without reclaiming the lost field that got them involved in the first place), and then repeat the cycle about 45 minutes later. :furious

Rant over, as you were.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 11:38:32 PM »
Great!! If i hadnt missed flying with my squad, and some of enemy pilots (friends) then i wouldnt come back to the MA.  I do remember seeing a lot of La7s before i left, kind of ticked me off!  Hopefully HiTech will get it together and perk the dang thing!!  I mean the La7 is fast, has 3 heavy cannons!  Heck might as well let the 262 be unperked or something:furious  But what can ya do, i do enjoy flying with some of the people in MA, (Bish, Rook, and yes even some of the Knights!) lol, cya all soon!


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Offline hubsonfire

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 11:39:07 PM »
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Originally posted by Hajo
Early Aces High.  When one or two planes looked for a fight.  Very few if any HO's.    No smack just a and a well done.  The Betas.  The Beta Map.  Beta for AHII when numbers were low and the veterans of the game spent a lot of time there furballing in everything against everyone.  Side swithcing in the Betas to balance the sides.  No Hordes.  If someone was trying a craft for their first ride in the beta and asked questions they were answered by all.  Winging with enemies from the MA in beta like Cavalier, YUCCA, Wilbus, StSanta, Saw, Apar, Citabria and Ripsnort.  Fllying against the Damned in Beta and having a blast.

What the hell happened?


I remember all of that. I remember when 2 of the "experten" parked 2 cvs (1 knit, 1 bish) on parallel courses, and a pointless furball raged for an hour or 2. Up, kill a couple, get whacked, rinse, repeat. No one in guns, no one trying to sink the other cv, just a big fight.

The path of least resistance, highest score, and most accolades happened- the war becoming the sole focus of gameplay, as opposed to a context in which to fight. Now, the goal is to avoid/prevent fights, in the name of aiding the war effort.

Anyway, that's my take.
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Offline Nomak

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 11:52:18 PM »
For a long time I thought it was essentially the same game as when I started.  I started in late summer of 2001.

Just now I went back to some old BB posts.  Real old.... like 99-2001.  Yeah its different.  Alot different.  Alot of those old posts were derived from a true passion for the game.  Not derived from a need to elevate ones self or knock another down.

I have seen HT say in the past that most players only play for a set amount of time.  In other words.... Most players follow a set pattern.... i.e. Birth, Life, Then death.  Its a cycle.  Old players leave and new players join.  

Has the player base simply gatherd a bunch of "Bad apples"?  Is it our (the veterans) fault for not teaching the new players how to become at least some what respectfull while dealing with other players?  Does that responsibility even fall on us?  Heck I dunno.  Geeze..... are the "New" players even the problem here?  

I wonder if flight sims have a shelf life just like players do?  

Here is a something that happend to me the other night.....  

As many of you know I have taken time to do some training in the Dueling arena from time to time.  It goes in spurts.  I will train like crazy for a month or so then chill for a few months..... then start training again.  I was doing alot of training early this year.  I wana say around Febuary or so.  At that time before each training session I would tell the perspective trainees that I didnt want to train jerks and that if/when they became badass pile-its I expected them to not become chitt talkers or turn into A-holes.  

I told you that so I could tell you this.....

In the MA a few nights ago.  I see some Jerk-off spewing on ch200 about his greatness.  How "he can take anyone to the DA"  and how "he is just that good"  I dont recognize the cpid.  Being a bit annoyed I throw out a comment or two on 200 basicly saying "yeah right, u are the greatest <--eye roll>"  A minute or two passes and I get a PM.  "hey are you the same Nomak that use to train me?"  (cause we all know there is a six-pack of Nomak's running riot around AH  :lol )  I say Yes.  He then procedes,  "I used to be so and so"......he then tells me how great he is and how he could "beat me" in the DA.  This is one of the guys I had a talk with about not getting a 'tude before his training ever began back in feb.  At the time I of course got the "oh yeah man.....Im not like that....." crap.

Unreal.  Mabye this punk could wipe the floor with me in the DA and mabye not.  The point is though...... I took my time to train this guy..... teach him the things that were never taught to me and then 6 months later hes telling me how he can "Kick my arse"  How disrespectfull can someone be?  Makes me sick really.  Makes me not want to help people.  Hes not the only one either.  There have been others who devolop egos that are astounding.  Anymore I dont even bother telling my trainees not to be A-Holes as I know most of them will be and my asking them not to be wont change anything.

None the less now a days I am trying to be a "Glass half full" kinda guy.  I am refusing to talk smak on 200.  Its time to lead by example.  If we can get a good base of players who fly and die with respect then who knows one day soon we just might be the majority.

Those are my thoughts not yours..... lol

Dave

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 11:55:27 PM »
Oh yeah..... for the record.  It has nothing to do with what people fly.....Its how they fly it.

Dave