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« Reply #225 on: October 21, 2005, 01:23:07 PM »
Estel, Norway is not denying Russian access to the fishery. Norway is enforcing illegal fishing PRACTICE.. over fishing and using nets that destroy or capture fish that have not grown large enough to breed. This kind of fishing destroys a fishery.

But you'll never get it. Nils is correct.. have a nice day, and thanks for playing.
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« Reply #226 on: October 21, 2005, 01:25:24 PM »
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You see, Boroda is the Master.. one line of truth, always followed by the propaganda lie.


Hang, we do pay Russian Empire's debts, and it's a fact. How about several hundreed thousand 1891 three-line rifles that were paid by the Empire and never delivered or stolen from Russian ports by American intervention forces in 1918-20?

/*BTW, the whole story of Russian rifles produced in USA in 1915-17 is amazing. All I can say is "And this people want to teach us capitalism!"*/

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« Reply #227 on: October 21, 2005, 01:42:17 PM »
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Estel, Norway is not denying Russian access to the fishery.


Really? Ok. In 21-22 October, in Norway there will be commitie meeting. They will try to distribute fishing quotas. Interesting thing, from year to year Norway is taking more and more quotas. Why? Legal question. I want to know it too. Also I'm interested of how much quotas will take Norway now and how much all others.

It is not a work to save fish. It's not needed. Only we can see, is that Norway becoming fishery monopolist. Take statistics and look onto fish production grade from 1987.  It's amasing. Production raised up only after applying new restrictions and regulations. It's good to every country to protect own interests. But please, don't do it at someone's else expence.

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Norway is enforcing illegal fishing PRACTICE.. over fishing and using nets that destroy or capture fish that have not grown large enough to breed. This kind of fishing destroys a fishery.

But you'll never get it. Nils is correct.. have a nice day, and thanks for playing.


Illegal? Illegal is wishful thinking. And using quotas and restrictions to raise own market.

Yes, I'll never get, why somebody can violate the international law to estimate own interests.

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« Reply #228 on: October 21, 2005, 02:01:47 PM »
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Estel, Norway is not denying Russian access to the fishery.


Quotas issued by one side is not denying access to fishery?!

Look, in 1990 Soviet foreign minister Shevardnadze (yes, a Georgian dicator overthrown by "democratic revolution" two years ago on American money) gave up Soviet economical zone in Far East. American side ratified that "agreement" quickly and American now fish in Russian waters. USSR didn't ratify this treaty and now Russia withdrew from it, and started a criminal case against Shevardnadze. Any news about American trawlers arrested by Russian border guards and towed to Russian ports? No? And it's absolutely legal economical zone, 100km from Russian main land, not from Kuril islands or Aleutes. And Svalbard is under mutual control until one side will remove it's settlements and economical objects. We have coal mines there and two towns. Why is it Norway issuing quotas there? Any sane reason except "All your base are belong to us"?

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« Reply #229 on: October 21, 2005, 02:09:40 PM »
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Any sane reason except "All your base are belong to us"?


Talking to you guys is like talking to wood.

We've seen what happens with unrestricted fishing here on the Grand Banks.

Norway's efforts to preserve the fishery, restrict the number of fish taken and control the size of fish taken is in fact a good thing. But you'll never admit such sound practice as anything other than a political insult..

so consider yerselves insulted.

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« Reply #230 on: October 21, 2005, 02:13:20 PM »
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It's useless to appeal to logics in such cases. Everyone knows that Russians are not human and don't deserve anything more then concentration camps.


Well as far as concentration camps goes I am pretty sure you guys take care of that (ok, took care) of that yourselves so you really should know.

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Russia has a history of seeing things in their own way. We finns know the best - after they pinned a war they started on us.    Nothing like repeating a lie untill it becomes the truth.


I once heard a Finn say "The Russian is evil, he will come again". I think that pretty much sums it up, specially from a country who has lived as neighbours for a long time.
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« Reply #231 on: October 21, 2005, 02:16:30 PM »
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Talking to you guys is like talking to wood.


Talking to you guys is like argueing with a radio. Ever got drunk enough to try asking you radio to sing along? ;)

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We've seen what happens with unrestricted fishing here on the Grand Banks.

Norway's efforts to preserve the fishery, restrict the number of fish taken and control the size of fish taken is in fact a good thing. But you'll never admit such sound practice as anything other than a political insult..

so consider yerselves insulted.

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Russian fishing fleet can't make any serious inpact on fishery resources. All I see is economical struggle. Just as any other "nature protection", "ecology", "frankenstein food", "greenpeace" or whatever.

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« Reply #232 on: October 21, 2005, 02:39:17 PM »
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Quite funny to hear such things from a country that still believes that two defeats in1940 and 1944 were their victories :D


I challenge you to find a quote from this board written by a finn that claims this. And after you can't find one, apologize.

You sir are a liar.
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« Reply #233 on: October 21, 2005, 03:56:21 PM »
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Russian fishing fleet can't make any serious inpact on fishery resources. All I see is economical struggle. Just as any other "nature protection", "ecology", "frankenstein food", "greenpeace" or whatever.


Hell even small countries like Sweden and Denmark can (are having) have an impact on fish resources, You have to be either ignorant or stupid to think the Russian fishing fleet can't.
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« Reply #234 on: October 21, 2005, 05:22:02 PM »
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Quite funny to hear such things from a country that still believes that two defeats in1940 and 1944 were their victories
We're not talking russian yet. Which can't be said about any other country you attacked in WW2. Any questions?

The way I see it our victory was the moment we chose to take a stand against a 100-times larger enemy at desperate odds.
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« Reply #235 on: October 21, 2005, 05:45:03 PM »
The Finn's done good. Finland! Way to stick it to Stalin!

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« Reply #236 on: October 22, 2005, 01:53:59 AM »
While all this was going on the coastguard arrested four other ships in the area.. two Russian and two Scottish. All four are now in arrest.

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« Reply #237 on: October 22, 2005, 04:05:40 AM »
Damn schottish pillagers! Er.. surely this is another conspiracy of the Norwegian government which will eventually lead to the extinction of the scottish breed. The whole outside world is scheming against the scots who have been living inside their closed society for a few decades now. Watch out, the scots are known to shoot down any craft or aeroplanes spying their borders. :lol
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« Reply #238 on: October 22, 2005, 06:25:26 AM »
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We're not talking russian yet.

You have missed much :)
I heard that already almost all Finns speak English and soon it will be entirely English-speaking country. So what is difference. :)

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« Reply #239 on: October 22, 2005, 06:39:29 AM »
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You have missed much :)
I heard that already almost all Finns speak English and soon it will be entirely English-speaking country. So what is difference. :)


English is alot easyer to learn. :)