michaelmoorehatesamerica....

[lazs2]

some of the best parts are the interviews with the people who are in moores movies saying that their parts were edited in order to show exactly the oppossite of what was really happening.... most demanded an apolodgy.

moores views are repugnant to me but the thing that is worse is his total lack of morals...  he will lie blod faced over an over.   One of the liberals in the movie said that moore hurt their cause because of this..

The only thing that really appaled me in the movie (I allready knew more was a raving liar) was...In the movie.... Wilson interviewed moore fans... he asked them if, if they knew that most of the things portrayed in moores movies were untrue or missrepresentations... how would they feel?   they said that.... if that were the case then they would be dissapointed but...

That The greater truth was more important than facts.   That he thought like they did in the big things so they could excuse the dishonesty.

lazs

[megadud]

Originally posted by lazs2
The only thing that really appaled me in the movie (I allready knew more was a raving liar) was...In the movie.... Wilson interviewed moore fans... he asked them if, if they knew that most of the things portrayed in moores movies were untrue or missrepresentations... how would they feel?   they said that.... if that were the case then they would be dissapointed but...

That The greater truth was more important than facts.   That he thought like they did in the big things so they could excuse the dishonesty.

lazs

I want to kick them all in the nuts

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Sandman
Hmmm... what views are those? AFAIK, he's critical of Bush, critical of the NRA, and critical of corporations.

Maybe it's just me, but I think there is more to our country than this.

Being critical is one thing. Producing outright lies, misrepresentations and character assassination is another. Just watch Bowling for Columbine carefully, watch the section where he trashes Charlton Heston, He pieces together clips from several speeches to make it out to look like one appearance in CO. The problem is Heston's clothing keeps changing. The real insult is that Moore has such a low opinion of the intelligence of his target audience that he believes (accurately it sure seems) that they will never pick up on this obvious trick. This type of "liberty with reality" is common in all of his work. It is a common propaganda trick. Which illustrates exactly what Moore's work is, Propaganda.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Clifra Jones
Which illustrates exactly what Moore's work is, Propaganda.

Of course it's propaganda. Many documentaries are.

[nirvana]

Take what he says, do some research, and make your own opinions.  I would have to say a good amount of people will take things at face value from Bush without researching it

SEE: No Child Left Behind Act

[Gunslinger]

Laz did you go to the theater to see this or did you rent it?

[Rino]

Originally posted by nirvana
Ignorance will keep you in the dark.  This is the problem I have with people in this country, you won't listen to the opposite side.  By saying you won't ever pay attention to him to completely deny his opinion and listening to a diffrent side of the story.  There are multiple facets to every story that goes on, choosing to listen to just 1 will get you in trouble eventually.

      Just out of curiousity, do you have to consume poop to decide that it's
probably not a good idea?

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by nirvana
Take what he says, do some research, and make your own opinions.  I would have to say a good amount of people will take things at face value from Bush without researching it

SEE: No Child Left Behind Act

sooo.. according to you.... its fine if moore does what he does because you think Bush does something similar.  Good plan.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by nirvana


SEE: No Child Left Behind Act

Ahhhh youth is definatly waisted on the young.  Take this that I quoted it and as you say "do some research" and find out who co-sponsored the bill.

[nirvana]

See how much good it does in schools;)   I know from firsthand experience not only does it leave kids behind, the feet draggers drag down everyone else in the classroom as well.

What i'm looking at is about 84 Republicans cosponsoring the act. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR00001:@@@P

What your point was, I have no idea.  They claim there is an increase in the "national report card".  I would, however, dispute these claims based on my school.  We could just be different but they place much emphasis on their tests to see how well students are doing.  The say "a well designed evaluation system ......."  WELL DESIGNED.  Not sure how many of you have kids in school that take state funded tests every year, i'm not sure how well designed they actually are.

Another thing they have is an optional alternative school for kids who can't, or won't, participate in the normal school enviornment.  Not only does this leave the kids behind anyway, a 10-1 schedule in which it is my understanding they do next to no learning, leaves them with as much as they went in with.  Tell me how NCLB is a benefit.


BTW Eating poop, a common sense thing, listening to differing opinions, at least give it a chance.

[rabbidrabbit]

BTW Eating poop, a common sense thing, listening to differing opinions, at least give it a chance. [/B]

I prefer to not eat poop, hence my disdain for MM.  I can't respect anyone who does not respect me.   Totally different than respecting other peoples point of view.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by nirvana
Ignorance will keep you in the dark.  This is the problem I have with people in this country, you won't listen to the opposite side.  By saying you won't ever pay attention to him to completely deny his opinion and listening to a diffrent side of the story.  There are multiple facets to every story that goes on, choosing to listen to just 1 will get you in trouble eventually.

I grew up listening to his "conspiracy theories".  It is all he has in life besides a cupboard full of McDonalds.  Again, I will never give that chode the attention he craves.

Karaya

[lazs2]

guns... I bought the movie.  It wasn't at the local blockbuster and I read an article on it in the American rifleman that said that it gave the NRA a fair shake and that Froman (the new pres) was interviewed in it.  I really like hearing what she has to say and as I expected... she did a great job but then.... I have never heard an NRA officer who was not twice as articulate and well spoken as the person attacking them.

sandie... you missed the point of moores movies then... the point moore makes is that our whole system is totally screwed up and that there is no hope for the little guy (without a big socialist government)... more shows only destruction and despair in America and then goes abroad to say what fools we are...  He lies openly and blatantly in huge and shocking ways.

one of the liberals in the movie said that if moore represented liberalism then he did it in a bad way... he made "us" all look like morons.

lazs

[Eagler]

He is a poster child for the left

Go Michael Moore go!!!

lol lol lol

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lazs2

he made "us" all look like morons.

lazs

Ya know... as I look around day to day, I'm convinced that a good percentage of "us" are indeed just that.