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Offline Clifra Jones

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« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2005, 04:06:12 PM »
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Well O great omnipotent one, you dont seem to get it..I dont care if you were responding to Nash, I was responding to you.

You may think perjury was commited, but without a conviction its just somthing bouncing around in your head.

shamus


And because Al Capone was never convicted of murder, boot-legging, running prostitution or any number of other crimes EVERYONE knew he was involved in then I guess he was just a tax evader right?
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« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2005, 06:22:37 PM »
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When the power of the prosecutors office can be used to destroy your political rivals we might as well be living in Stalin's Russia or Saddam's Iraq.


l. m. f. a. o.

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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2005, 06:26:02 PM »
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And because Al Capone was never convicted of murder, boot-legging, running prostitution or any number of other crimes EVERYONE knew he was involved in then I guess he was just a tax evader right?


According to the law, yes.

Good thing we are not mob rule.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2005, 07:34:32 PM »
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Well O great omnipotent one, you dont seem to get it..I dont care if you were responding to Nash, I was responding to you.

You may think perjury was commited, but without a conviction its just somthing bouncing around in your head.

shamus


no not bouncing.  He lied to a federal grand jury.  He admited he lied.  I'm not saying he was convicted of perjury I'm saying he committed it.

It's kinda like saying OJ did it.

My whole response to was Nash's post about the law is the law and I responded with a definition of the word "is" statment.  It fits, it's valid in it's context.  I do not care if you want to discuss if he was convicted or not I was responding to Nash.
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« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2005, 07:41:49 PM »
Was my response to you satisfactory?
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2005, 08:21:28 PM »
It was perfect Nash.  You are right the law is the law and the rebulcians talking points describes this as "the criminalization of politics"  While true in many aspects, if whe he did broke the law well a court should convict him.  

Again personally I don't think he or libby did anything out of malice, it's just politics.  Probably not much different than past administrations.  BUT, that shouldn't matter if he broke the law.

My response to your statment was that clinton blatently perjured himself but the political response was just what I said.  

This might be the death of politics to me because I really don't care anymore, I have my own problems.
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« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2005, 08:26:35 PM »
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...to me because I really don't care anymore, I have my own problems.


I hope not bad, Gun.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2005, 09:28:15 PM »
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I hope not bad, Gun.


nope not bad, just stuff that every person deals with when they balance a career and a family.  We are moving to Texas in March and my current job here is requiring more of m professionally than I am willing to give/provide.

I've given up on devoting time/energy to politics because it just seems so bad right now.  06/08 might be different stories but I got other things in life to stress over.  Is the country really going to suffer that much if Delay/Rove/libbey get indicted?   Personally....I don't think so, it will be SNAFU.
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« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2005, 09:30:00 PM »
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We are moving to Texas in March....


Jesus. That sucks. Sorry to hear it. My prayers are with you.
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2005, 09:35:11 PM »
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Jesus. That sucks. Sorry to hear it. My prayers are with you.


Umm.....this is a volunteer move.  It's either Texas, New Mexico, or me going to South Korea and my wife and kids stay here for a year.

I think I got the better end of the deal  :aok
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« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2005, 09:37:17 PM »
What's going on?

Massive outsource?
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Offline rpm

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« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2005, 09:38:35 PM »
Look on the bright side Guns. You will be in Texas just in time to vote for Kinky Friedman.
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« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2005, 11:36:57 PM »
OK, if you havn't followed my life history on this board......I served 5 years active duty in the US Marines then got out.  Then afeter 9/11 I served an additional year active reserves for eduring freedom.  


By this time I was no longer single and had a wife and 2 kids to support and was unemployed.  I started looking at re-enlisting.  The corps didn't take well to people who got out and came back in so I was bound to lose about 4 years of seinority.  The Air Force recruiter accross the hall gave me a better deal plus a better life style for my family wich was number one priority at the time.


I've been active duty air force for 3 years now with almost 10 years total time in service.  I have few complaints.  I volunteered for a duty that I've allways wanted to do and that was Drill Instructor.  In the AF it's called MTI.  I am going to train new USAF trainees in San Antonio Texas and couldnt be happier.

Hey it's better than Iraq or Korea.
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« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2005, 11:59:29 PM »
don't be kind to yer young puppies.

their lives may depend on it.

Good luck in Tejas, Senor!
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« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2005, 12:08:30 AM »
If he's proven guilty he should do the time. Just like Rostenkowski.

That's the way it's supposed to work.
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