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Offline Rino

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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2005, 04:53:51 AM »
I do know they follow up on the registering thing.  I registered in 1980
when I turned 18, but received a letter from Selective Service near the end
of 1981 saying that I hadn't.  

     I replied that I had indeed, and that if they didn't like it, they could
respond to me via my commanding officer at Lowery AFB, Denver Co.
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2005, 07:45:22 AM »
So the truth comes out Smidsy, some B&D is your real nature.  You are a sick kid, you know that right?  And what is a bannana?  Is that like a banana?
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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2005, 04:32:48 PM »
Hi Lasersailor,

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm pretty sure that Mothers would not be drafted.


There is no guarantee of that, as there was historically no automatic dispensation for fathers. Around here, mom's get deployed to Iraq (where they are in combat - don't believe otherwise for a moment) and have to leave behind their kids all the time. The only exception on deployment is for pregnancy.

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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2005, 04:40:27 PM »
Seagoon, all the mom's in iraq Volunteered.  We're talking about drafting no Mothers.  Or possibly single parents for that matter.
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2005, 07:40:27 PM »
As a loving father I have to say I hope to god my daughter never get's drafted, I say the same about my son as well.  If either of them were to enter military service I wish it to be voluntary.  

BUT,

I'd have to say that if they did initiate a draft today I think there'd be several justifiable law suits stating gender discrimination that woman arent included in that draft.

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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2005, 08:19:14 PM »
I'm a single mother, and the last thing I want to do is leave my daughter and possibly never come back to her.

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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2005, 09:37:11 PM »
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I'm a single mother, and the last thing I want to do is leave my daughter and possibly never come back to her.


Well what about equality?  What about single fathers? I know a few.

Seriously if woman start getting drafted along with men the only ones you have to blame are your feminist woman's studies teachers in college to blame.

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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2005, 09:58:06 PM »
I am a single mother too, and being drafted means I cant stand in front of the mirror anymore and play with my boobies. :rofl (Which is what I would do if I was)

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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2005, 10:02:29 PM »
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Good god. its been so long I dont even know my selective service #

Oh well there goes my plans of a military carreer objective of becoming a "PLO" :rofl

(Wondering how many will get that)


Cant beleive nobody got that.

You mean to tell me nobody here has seen "No time for Sergeants"??

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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2005, 10:06:45 PM »
Let's see register for a draft we dont have:rolleyes:

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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2005, 10:20:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
As a loving father I have to say I hope to god my daughter never get's drafted, I say the same about my son as well.  If either of them were to enter military service I wish it to be voluntary.  

BUT,

I'd have to say that if they did initiate a draft today I think there'd be several justifiable law suits stating gender discrimination that woman arent included in that draft.


See thats how I feel about it.
I have both a son and a daughter and I wouldnt want to see either of them drafted. Now if either were to join on their own. Thats their decision and I would support it

but if there were a draft inasmuch as women are already allowed to and do serve now
It should include women.

They want and faught for equal rights and all its benifits, and rightly so.
But it is my firm beleif that you cant just accept the benifits without also accepting the possible pitfalls that go with it.

You cant say "I am  equal to a man  and demand to be treated equally as such. exept for this or that"

No no no no no.

Then your saying that a woman has more rights then a man because the woman has that right to choose not to join where a man does not.
And how is that equal?

I personally am dead set against a draft.
But if you want everyone to be treated equally then everyone should be treated equally for worse as well as for better.

And if your going to exclude single mothers. then also exclude single fathers as well.
Either be fair and treat everyone equally about it or dont do it at all.
Orrrr Roll back the equal rights between a man and woman.

If a man is forced to serve and a woman is not. then he has earned those extra rights. Because as a tradeoff. Unlike a woman, he can be plucked out of his home and away from his family at a moments notice AGAINST his wishes and several months later find himself in a far off land with people trying to blow his head off.
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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2005, 10:36:54 PM »
There actually was a suit, or at least the beginnings of one, a couple decades ago.  It quietly disappeared since the draft was no longer in effect.  This issue WILL reappear if ever the government re-instates the draft.

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« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2005, 07:27:38 PM »
I know there isn't a draft right now, and I personally don't care about that good  old equality thing, we have "equality" and were still not treated the same as men.

My point is this, someday as this "terror war" goes on and on there will be a shortage of either people to send over there, or a shortage of people enlisting in the military, therefore we will need to reinstate the draft to force people to join. And I don't want to be one of the ones to be forced to join the military.
I support anybody in the military, you men and women have my ultimate thanks.  Its just not my "thing".

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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2005, 11:49:55 PM »
There won't be a draft.

Volunteers produce a better quality, motivated fighting force.

The U.S. military learned long ago that draftees are more of a liability than an asset.

You get more bang for your buck with people who want to serve.
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2005, 11:29:53 AM »
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Originally posted by Blooz
There won't be a draft.

Volunteers produce a better quality, motivated fighting force.

The U.S. military learned long ago that draftees are more of a liability than an asset.

You get more bang for your buck with people who want to serve.



True. Also besides the draft there was the choice handed down by judges of you can go to jail or join the service. As I don't hear anything like that any more I assume that the lawbreakers go to jail now rather than pollute the military.


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