Author Topic: 190s (Read 1376 times)

Larry · « **on:** October 20, 2005, 02:23:09 PM »

Iv flown LW for years but Iv mostly been a 109/110 guy and havent really mastered the 190s. Flew with the JBz and they always flew the dora but once I last the alt I was prety much dead. Can someone mabey take me the the TA and show me some tips on how the get outa mess when youve lost the alt and speed.

Vudak · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2005, 07:06:16 PM »

What do you mean by "lost the alt"? Do you mean you are in the weeds, or that you're simply below the opponent but still have a cushion below you to work with?

I want to say you're thinking the former because you say you're out of speed as well. If that's the case... You can pray, or play "who can get slower" while trying to dodge their shots, or you can play "who can get closer to the trees", etc...

If you could get ManeTMP into the DA sometime and manage to get on his six when he's low in a tippy or FW or something, he'd show you a pretty mundane but frustratingly effective defense... He basically just gets sooo slow and sooo low and kinda "waves" out of your fire depending where your nose is.

At least that's what I think he was doing.

mechanic · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2005, 08:17:17 PM »

thats exactly what he does except not only does he make you overshoot, he shoots you as you go past also.

TK, just fly it like anything else. All planes are easy mode except the 152 and the yaks!

remember to chop throttle alot more than in allied planes to start your turns is all i have noticed. and dont try to rope a pony.

AutoPilot · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2005, 02:50:15 AM »

All i fly is the 190 A-5.I can show you some tricks of the trade.

Next time i see you we'll work on it.

Hap · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2005, 11:20:07 AM »

i fly the dora quite a bit. i also like not getting dead and landing. co-e, la7 can run down a dora on the deck given a bit of time. otherwise, i extend regain the advantage i squandered and then have a go at it again.

better pilots probably know how to force an enemy to squander their advantage after an initial advantage has diminished. or, the even better pilots simply out fly their enemy period. never much been one of the latter classes.

~~hap~~

AutoPilot · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2005, 02:19:08 PM »

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co-e, la7 can run down a dora on the deck given a bit of time. otherwise, i extend regain the advantage i squandered and then have a go at it again.

On the deck,there in lies the problem.The 190 performs way better at higher altitudes.When fighting a La-7 at 10-K plus it is easier too force
him to make mistakes,because La-7s dont run well at high alts.

Burning off the forward tank in the 190 usually solves alot of issues
pilots have with the 190.Every person i have told that too,now flys the 190 and the 190 only.

Way back in AH-1 days everyone use to furball at 5-K plus,now its all down on the deck where you have no way of breaking off the fight to regain energy,if you do that you become a dirt torpedo.Where as at 20-K one can dive away and regain alt very easily.The 190 is very good at this sort of
fighting way up in the clouds.The German pilots of WW2 said that they loved the 190 because it could break of combat at will.

But thats just my 2 cents take it for what its worth.

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2005, 03:01:16 PM »

"Burn the main tank" -- yeah, it flies better then, because you've got a total of 1/8th a tank left after that.

EVERY plane flies better when they've got no gas at all weighing them down

AutoPilot · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2005, 03:26:28 PM »

Krusty 190 does not have a main tank.Aft,FWD tanks.Thats on the A-5.

The A-8 has 3 internal tanks.The 190 stores the majority of its fuel in the front tank.It cycles through the other tanks before it does the front.

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2005, 04:28:01 PM »

The forward tank is the main tank. It holds 75% of all the gas in the plane. By burning the forward/main tank first you're just saying "Fly it with little gas in it, and it does well" -- which applies to every plane in the game.

AutoPilot · « **Reply #9 on:** October 21, 2005, 08:18:52 PM »

well see there you cant tell somebody somethin who already knows everything,cant believe i forgot that........

Vudak · « **Reply #10 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:07:48 PM »

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Originally posted by AutoPilot
well see there you cant tell somebody somethin who already knows everything,cant believe i forgot that........

I'm not saying that Krusty knows everything... But I have heard from many FW pilots to burn the Aft tank first? I suppose I could have heard wrong?

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:12:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
I'm not saying that Krusty knows everything... But I have heard from many FW pilots to burn the Aft tank first? I suppose I could have heard wrong?

Far from it. I don't know everything. I'm just pointing out the flaw in saying "the trick to flying the 190 is to fly it with no gas in the tanks!" -- because the same applies to every plane.

Meh

(*insert ambivelant shrugging emoticon here*)

AutoPilot · « **Reply #12 on:** October 21, 2005, 09:46:46 PM »

The majority of the fuel is stored in the FWD tank not the AFT tank.

I usually take 50% onboard fuel and a drop tank.
from take off too 17-K at full wep auto climb.
once at 17-K FWD tank is at 50% and i switch over too drop tank.
so even if i do engage someone i dont have to drop the tank.

Everyone i have told this to now mainly flys the 190.

feels like i got DeJa Vu

Oldman731 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2005, 11:03:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Vudak
I'm not saying that Krusty knows everything... But I have heard from many FW pilots to burn the Aft tank first? I suppose I could have heard wrong?

Wasn't that something they fixed in one of the patches to AH2? I'm pretty sure that this was a well-known bug that has now been eliminated.

- oldman

Vudak · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2005, 11:28:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Oldman731
Wasn't that something they fixed in one of the patches to AH2? I'm pretty sure that this was a well-known bug that has now been eliminated.

- oldman

You know that could definately be true... I've been gone longer than I thought I guess