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Offline AKSWulfe

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« on: July 12, 2001, 12:30:00 PM »
http://www.sim-arena.com/il2/vid5.asf

Notice the Fw-189 flying straight and level despite the fact that it's horizontal stabilizer is no longer attached to the plane?
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Offline Boroda

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2001, 12:48:00 PM »
The tail-gunner is a true samurai - he keeps on shhoting after "rama" loses her wing  :)

Reminds me of good old WB when a B-25 tail-gunner keeps shooting at me flying past my plane in a torn-away rear fuselage :-)
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2001, 12:52:00 PM »
Did the Soviets use some sort of phosphor that burned green for their tracers in real life?  

Or are those planes equipped with Imperial laser cannons similar to TIE Fighters???   ;)
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2001, 12:57:00 PM »
No, TIE Fighters were equiped with licensed Berezins  :)

AFAIK Oleg puts much attention to details like tracer colours. I remember him speaking about different colours of Soviet, German and even Italian tracers. Soviet Army really uses green tracers.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2001, 12:59:00 PM »
Only game having tracers like in authentic films is B-17 II. I hope Il2 fixes that  :)
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2001, 01:00:00 PM »
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No, TIE Fighters were equiped with licensed Berezins   :)

AFAIK Oleg puts much attention to details like tracer colours. I remember him speaking about different colours of Soviet, German and even Italian tracers. Soviet Army really uses green tracers.

Thank you for the answer, my question was serious.  It's just that they DO look like they're playing X-wing vs TIE fighter!   ;)
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2001, 01:04:00 PM »
Staga, have you fired an automatic gun in real life?

Tracers do not look like that. It's vibrations from the guns firing (gun cameras were placed close to the guns) that caused the tracers to appear to wiggle.
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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2001, 01:06:00 PM »
No one cares to comment on the fact that the plane is continuing to fly, even though the horizontal stabilizer is blown off?

The tracers could be multi-colored... but the plane is STILL flying level without a horizontal stabilizer!
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2001, 01:10:00 PM »
it didn't get shot off,  it was your imagination.   :p

wait...  OMG!!!  that thing is still flying level after losing the stabilizer!!!  but, swulfe...  it just FEEEEELS right!!!   ;)

it's beta...  if it was the final product that was shipped and sitting in stores, then I'd be a little more miffed.   :)
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2001, 01:13:00 PM »
Right Nifty, I agree it's just beta.

BUT (there's always one of those, aren't there? ;-), that is an important part of the FM. Which leaves questions in my mind, which is more important-> FM or eye candy?

I hope FM is more important, if I wanted eye candy I'd play WWII Fighters or FS:SDOE! ;-)
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EDIT: Added in FS:SDOE because I happen to own a copy of that!   :eek:

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2001, 01:25:00 PM »
hopefully it's the FM that's more important.   ;)  I wish them luck, in either case.   :)  Maybe they just did eye candy first because it's easier to get done than tweaking the FM.  They wanted it to look GOOD while tweaking the FM, yeah that's it!  "Damn, the FM just isn't quite the way we want it yet..."  "Yeah, but it looks GREAT!"

Speaking of FMs...  WWIIOL is supposedly making some changes to their FM in the next patch.  Drag calculations will be improved as well as better rudder authority.  Whether this creates a more realistic FM, we'll have to see.  err, I'll have to see and tell ya about it.   :D
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2001, 01:32:00 PM »
Yeah, I'd like to hear how that turns out Nifty.

My C466 for some reason can't handle sub-Half-Life engine graphics that WW2Ol uses...   ;)
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »
SW is right, with the stabilizer gone the plane should pitch up violently and immediately.

Boroda is it WB or your host that causes the B-25 problem?  My final sortie on that host ended when a 109 flew in front of me, backwards, and shot me in the face.   I called him a communistic imbecile and logged off.   :)

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2001, 01:50:00 PM »
SW if you count light MG, AK-47 and RK-62 as an automatic then answer is yes.
Night shootings with tracers were fun, specially if you loaded clips with only tracers. It was nice sight to see all those tracers bouncing around the sky after they hit rocks in ground.

btw almost every adult male and some female person in Finland has been in army and all of them had their own assault-rifle in duty.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2001, 01:53:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SWulfe:
Yeah, I'd like to hear how that turns out Nifty.

My C466 for some reason can't handle sub-Half-Life engine graphics that WW2Ol uses...    ;)
S!
-SW

*ROFL*  I amused myself the other night in the game.  was defending a town in a A13.  I was swinging the turret around looking for panzers, trucks or just idiot soldiers, and sure enough, some German soldier was trying to run in the compound!  I hit him with the machinegun.  Swung the turret around and what is this???  a German truck trying to go past me???  Fire a AP round into the engine block and the truck stops.  German soldiers start popping out (this is really close to me as well) and I basically mowed down 4 soldiers!  They didn't even have time to move!   :D

Oh, the lag was funny.  At least I hope it was the lag that was causing the 109s to fly into and under the ground!    :eek:
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