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Offline Torque

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2005, 07:40:42 AM »
porn invented the internet.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2005, 08:08:35 AM »
the UN needs to go away.   It's only purpose is to gain more and more power.

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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2005, 08:26:24 AM »
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the UN needs to go away.   It's only purpose is to gain more and more power.
 


Gain more and more power?  hmm... shouldn't the US go away too, even more so than the UN?
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2005, 08:34:20 AM »
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Gain more and more power?  hmm... shouldn't the US go away too, even more so than the UN?
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2005, 08:37:42 AM »
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Countries that censor online content could use the forum to ban free expression elsewhere, he said.


I don't want any government controlling this.......

This could also give a country a way to protect trade and business(so expect Euro's to be in full support of this)...
« Last Edit: October 24, 2005, 10:01:04 AM by soda72 »
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2005, 08:41:55 AM »
so fishu... you do realize that it is us against them?   Yep... If I were a furiner... I would want the US to go away..

As an American... I want the UN to go away.

I realize that many tiny little has been countries see the UN as the only way that they can ever have a say again about how powerful countries run their own government but.... they need to face it... they are irellevant..

and a good thing too... most of em did a terrible job when they had power.

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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2005, 08:52:24 AM »
The real trouble is the "I" in ICANN stand for Incompetence.
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2005, 11:42:40 AM »
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al gore invented the internet...


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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2005, 12:29:05 PM »
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Does that mean we outsiders can take back the things we invented.. like WWW, IRC... and so on? Like.. leave americans without a World Wide Web.

(IRC was originally invented by finns and the first WWW application was by finns, but later remade by a non-finn who was inspirated by the finns WWW model)



Please do, as an old timer who used the internet prior to the World Wide Web I can easily say it was a better place IMO.
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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2005, 12:33:53 PM »
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porn invented the internet.


Not true. The military "invented" the internet. Pron gave it "meaning".


























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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2005, 12:51:00 PM »
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Far be it from me to stand in the way of a good lynching, but what Fishu said - and it's not actually even the UN's idea or the UN proposing changes..


If control of the naming conventions was transferred to the UN, do you really thing those idiots would wait to start making changes?

It's workin just fine like it is.
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Offline Estel

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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2005, 12:54:31 PM »
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we control it,


No. You do not :)  It's decentralized. Only you control is North-American domain system. All others is under control of local organisations.

IMHO this is the first step to create new tax system. The first thay will want to get is tax for domain name registration. The second: tax for using. And so on.
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2005, 12:58:57 PM »
As of late the UN is only good for handing out food, water,and medical supplies.
Wait there not even good at that. Can anyone say "oil for food program".




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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2005, 01:10:36 PM »
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If control of the naming conventions was transferred to the UN, do you really thing those idiots would wait to start making changes?

It's workin just fine like it is.


I don't know what they would do, but as I read from the article, the UN isn't the only option.
What these other countries wants, is an organization that can't be governed just by one country.

It might be working fine as it is, but for how long.
The question might not be relevant today, but why wait till it is too late if some people see bad signs in the current system.

I'm nowhere saying that ICANN should be transfered to an organization which is felt more neutral in the world, because I don't really know the background of the issue.
However as far as I know about the issue it could be a good idea to discuss about it.
Simply playing ignorant over the issue isn't going to help at all, on the contrary.
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Offline rshubert

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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2005, 01:17:38 PM »
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No you don't. The whole concept of the Internet in its early beginnings was to decentralise information so that if one node took a hit, information could be rerouted. Even by 2000, there were over 200 million nodes in 246 countries. No country is central to its function. That would be like saying that "the US controls the world telephone system", which clearly it does not. As fishu said, and I quote from the article:  - only the domain name registration is centralised, as it would have to be for the reasons quoted.


BALONEY!  The early concept of the internet was DARPANET, a method of communications between dissimilar mainframe computing systems.  The Internet goes back to the 1960s, FYI.

And it was a wholly US invention--up to the mid-90s.  The whole gamut, including HTTP, TCP/IP, RFCs, etc...  International participation has brought us many things, such as Nigerian Money Transfer Schemes, Dutch hackers, and so many other wonderful additions to the system.

Why should I trust the UN to manage domain name servers (that's what this is really about, you know, the root servers)?  Have they ever managed anything efficiently?  What's wrong witht the current setup, other than the fact that us nasty Yankee running dog imperialists are in charge?  Has anyone, anywhere ever been denied access to the internet's services through the offices of the US Government?  I think not.  China, now--China has denied access to the internet to Chinese citizens.

Do I want China to have a say in how the internet works?  NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!
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