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Offline Curval

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« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2005, 05:10:15 PM »
Then buy more bullets and more guns from America...lots there.  Problem solved.  Thus is the logic of all of the gun nu....errrr gun enthusiasts on this BBS.

If not then I am terribly confused.:confused:
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« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2005, 05:36:39 PM »
Seems right that the UK and Bermuda should ban alcohol. Maybe not a total ban.....there could be alcohol clubs that hold your alcohol for you. You would have to go to the club and be registered to drink it, and not be able to leave until you are 100 percent sober. :D

Why doesn't the same anti-gun logic apply to alcohol? Alcohol has no useful purpose and causes many times more deaths than guns ever have in the UK (or Burmuda :) )

So why no outcry to ban alcohol? Do the people killed by alcohol not matter? It doesn't make sense. Every single argument that is used to justify a gun ban applies to alcohol as well.

And yeah, I said "killed by alcohol" just as people say "killed by a gun". Actually a gun doesn't kill, the person using it does. Same with alcohol. Which is worse? Compair the stats and get back to me.

It seems hypocritical to say that alcohol shouldn't be banned, but guns should. At the very least, it's not even logical.
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« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2005, 06:13:04 PM »
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Why doesn't the same anti-gun logic apply to alcohol?  


Because crimminals do not tend to threaten people with lines like "Give me your money or I will force you to drink a 40 oz bottle of rum (which might be enough to kill you I guess)."
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« Reply #78 on: October 25, 2005, 06:25:29 PM »
In my observations, alcohol contributes to violance overall.  Especially domestic violance, and violance related to driving while drunk.

I suspect drinking kills more people in the US, and generates far more pain and suffering than any other single factor....
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« Reply #79 on: October 25, 2005, 06:43:50 PM »
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Because crimminals do not tend to threaten people with lines like "Give me your money or I will force you to drink a 40 oz bottle of rum (which might be enough to kill you I guess)."


True, criminals aren't going to use a bottle of rum to rob you. Instead, they just may plow their two-ton manned missle into your mini-van filled with you and your kids and kill everyone on board. Which is more acceptable? Which happens more often?

The logic used to ban guns was that guns are dangerous and kill people, right? That they have no legitimate purpose, correct?The purpose was to eliminate deaths, right? Or, what was the purpose of banning guns?

Seems like a better, more honest approach would be to just admit that alcohol does kill more people than guns, but that people don't feel as threatened by alcohol, so they can look past those thousands and thousands killed by it every year.

I see no reason why you wouldn't back a ban on alcohol. It would save thousands of innocent lives. If guns killed people and had no purpose, seems like an alcohol ban is in order based on the same reasoning.
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« Reply #80 on: October 25, 2005, 07:16:21 PM »
No curval.  Not everything can be solved by bullets you war mongerer.



The real problem is racial.  And yet again I am saying on this board that I fear not explain the real problem because I don't want to get banned.
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« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2005, 08:20:16 PM »
Ball-bearings dont kill people, PEOPLE kill people!
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« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2005, 08:58:22 PM »
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Associated Press October 24, 2005

RIO DE JANEIRO -- Brazilians soundly rejected a proposal to ban the sale of guns in a national referendum Sunday, striking down the bid to stem one of the world's highest firearm murder rates after a campaign that drew parallels to the U.S. gun control debate.

Brazil has 100 million fewer citizens than the United States, but a staggering 25 percent more gun deaths at nearly 40,000 a year. While supporters argued that gun control was the best way to stanch the violence, opponents played on Brazilians' fears that the police can't protect them.

"I don't like people walking around armed on the street. But since all the bandits have guns, you need to have a gun at home," said taxi driver Mohammed Osei, who voted against the ban.

With more than 92 percent of the votes counted, 64 percent of Brazilians were opposed to the ban, while 36 percent backed it, said election officials, giving the `no' position an insurmountable lead.
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« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2005, 09:08:24 PM »
Nuke, the purpose of banning guns is to reduce gun crime.  End of story.
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« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2005, 09:10:12 PM »
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Nuke, the purpose of banning guns is to disarm the peasantry so government shenanigans can ensue. End of story.



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« Reply #85 on: October 25, 2005, 09:11:02 PM »
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Nuke, the purpose of banning guns is to reduce gun crime.  End of story.


The Women's Christian Temperance Union had a similar ideal.
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« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2005, 09:42:01 PM »
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Nuke, the purpose of banning guns is to reduce gun crime.  End of story.


So why not ban alcohol to reduce crime? That would end all of the drunk driving murders and other related crimes. Think of all the crimes that could be prevented.

Heck, doesn't anyone care about the innocents? What about the poor soccor fans who get mauled by drunken rioters?

Seems like banning alcohol would be a good thing, since it would prevent a lot or crime and death, even more than have been prevented by the gun bans.
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« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2005, 10:22:01 PM »
banning guns, seems more like a political placebo for treating the symptoms of a much larger social disease.

stop gun crime, give them all life, make them earn their keep as well.

alcohol...if there ever was a king of all gateway drugs with political clout...

ball bearings... the snipers choice when it comes to wrist rockets and pesky neighbourhood cats.
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« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2005, 10:42:44 PM »
Guns are too much temptation and should be banned as beetle & co say.
Hands should also be forbidden since their uses include beating and braking bones.
Alas, alcohol will also be banned since, gourmet dining notwithstanding, it is not necessary for a normal, healthy, civil life.
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« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2005, 11:04:03 PM »
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"ummm... no."

I'm not counting people involved in wars.  In both my country and his, more people die as a result of alcohol-related incidents than gun-related incidents.  

J_A_B


bingo! Next time put the "T & C"s on such broad sweeping statements ;)
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