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Offline AKFokerFoder+

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Variable fuel burn based on ENY??
« on: October 25, 2005, 11:47:53 AM »
I have been mulling over the idea that changing the fuel burn rate in the MA, and making it a variable that depends on ENY.

An example would be the following:    (sorry for the kee rap table, it won't take spaces for some reason)

ENY----Burn rate
0  -  5  =  2.5
6 -1 0     =  2
11-25   =  1.75
26-35   =  1.5
36-40   =  1.25
41-60   =  1

The above variable rate would have the effect of penalizing the uber rides even more than they are now. However, the higher ENY rides would have more range, or be able to take less fuel, thus making them more attractive and more competitive.

Imagine a Yak 9 with a burn rate of 1.25?  You could take 75% fuel and have more flight time than you do now.  

Or a 109F4 with 50% fuel would have the same range as it does today, you may even want to fly it with drop tanks and 25% fuel.

Fighters upping a Yak at a vulched base could take 25% fuel, or an LA5 with 50% fuel and still have air time.

The FW190’s would be much more attractive with longer range and less fuel, etc etc.

We could make the mid-war rides much more competitive.

Just an idea, what do you think??
« Last Edit: October 25, 2005, 11:56:06 AM by AKFokerFoder+ »

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 11:57:18 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2005, 12:01:13 PM »
that actually sounds interesting.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 12:29:30 PM »
Nope! Not a good idea. Why? Because as-is the high ENY (the early war, non-uber) planes already have a built-in endurance advantage. Almost every one of them has an engine that has less power than, say, a 109G10 or a p51D, and doesn't guzzle nearly as much gas. Take a C202 up. Go full throttle. You'll have 2x the range of a spitV at full throttle simply because it doesn't guzzle as much gas. Same goes for almost every other early war plane. Try the P40. Flies for an hour almost (internal only).

So there's no need to give them even longer duration, they already have it just as a quirk of the system.

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 12:45:58 PM »
imop, Bad idea
 But some drop tanks in  Me163s would be cool!:)

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 12:53:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
Nope! Not a good idea. Why? Because as-is the high ENY (the early war, non-uber) planes already have a built-in endurance advantage. Almost every one of them has an engine that has less power than, say, a 109G10 or a p51D, and doesn't guzzle nearly as much gas. Take a C202 up. Go full throttle. You'll have 2x the range of a spitV at full throttle simply because it doesn't guzzle as much gas. Same goes for almost every other early war plane. Try the P40. Flies for an hour almost (internal only).



Really??  Maybe the 202 holds more gas then a spit?

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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 12:55:43 PM »
Doesn't matter how much GAS it holds. It matters how LONG it can fly on what it has. And the early planes (the ones with high ENY ratings) already have longer ranges than the low eny planes (i.e. uber late war planes). So it doesn't matter if a p40E or a c202 has more gas than a 109 or a spit (or whether it's true or not) -- they already fly twice as long without refueling.

So no need for this system. Ain't broke? Don't fix it!

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 01:09:29 PM »
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Doesn't matter how much GAS it holds. It matters how LONG it can fly on what it has. And the early planes (the ones with high ENY ratings) already have longer ranges than the low eny planes (i.e. uber late war planes). So it doesn't matter if a p40E or a c202 has more gas than a 109 or a spit (or whether it's true or not) -- they already fly twice as long without refueling.

So no need for this system. Ain't broke? Don't fix it!
whats the range on the 109F and G2? ("early war" rides totally)

202 is probably THE most worthless and highest ENY plane in the game, yet you are basing your entire example of why this idea is "bad" on that one plane
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 01:18:50 PM »
I don't think this is a good idea.  Fuel consumption is part of the modeling really and I think that modeling should be consistant.

What next then?  A Hispano on a Spitfire Mk XIV does half the damage of a Hispano on a Mosquito Mk VI or Hurricane Mk IIc?  It is the same thing, though not as drastic.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 01:20:31 PM »
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I don't think this is a good idea.  Fuel consumption is part of the modeling really and I think that modeling should be consistant.

What next then?  A Hispano on a Spitfire Mk XIV does half the damage of a Hispano on a Mosquito Mk VI or Hurricane Mk IIc?  It is the same thing, though not as drastic.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 01:54:30 PM »
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whats the range on the 109F and G2? ("early war" rides totally)

202 is probably THE most worthless and highest ENY plane in the game, yet you are basing your entire example of why this idea is "bad" on that one plane


It was but one example. Consider P40, Ki61, bf110c, a6m, and many other planes. Heck the SBD5 goes nearly forever on a full tank :)

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 02:16:06 PM »
How bout...NO, scott.