Author Topic: Ships (Read 3398 times)

Reynolds · « **Reply #60 on:** July 18, 2006, 07:57:06 PM »

Hmmm. Most service would be a British Destroyer i think. Most shells would be American in the pacific, most UBER would be German though!

Angus · « **Reply #61 on:** July 19, 2006, 06:30:39 AM »

No.
Capital ships, BB's and + perhaps Cruisers.
Most service UK.
Most shells USA.
Uber ... Late USA
Uber-Uber Musashi and Yamato, and yet not, for the USA had more advanced fire control.

Most Uber hit: HMS Warspite (WWI design) hitting an italian ship with a 15 inch shell at full speed at some 26 KM

Most effective hit: Bismarck sinking the HMS Hood with one shell (Lack of armor allowed the shell to penetrate into the ammo lager)
Runner up: HMS Rodney Knocking out Bismarck's control center with one 16 inch shell. (???)

David vs Goliath: HMS Belfast spanking the Scarnhorst with 6 inch guns vs 11 inch guns, being just about 1/4th of the size!!!

Largest Navy in the beginning of WW2: UK
In the end: USA

Yoshimbo · « **Reply #62 on:** July 19, 2006, 01:18:09 PM »

We should have a few TG's that contain only one ship.

example:

a Bismark Class

a Yamamoto Class

an Iowa Class

and a King George V Class

notice these are all Bigoscar BBs packin a helluva lotta Firepower

These would be good for scenarios and such, but I think i can see them in the MA, ya know, one or two for each side. they could be a pain in the arse to sink and quite a formidable weapon against other TGs and ground targets.

We could missions specific to the sinking of these monsters.

Can you a imagine a Triple Threat between 3 of these!

Think of the amount of AA! the 1943 Iowa Class I know had some
80! 40mm/56 Anti-Aircraft
and
49! 20mm/70 Anti-Aircraft great gookamuka! I'd like to see those stuka junkies get through that!

ALSO, we need to be able to catapult planes of of these ships. The Bismark could launch off 4 off of one two-way catapult, The Yamamoto could launch 7 off of 2 catapults, I'm not saying limit it to four or 7, the point is that they could.

Angus · « **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2006, 04:39:38 AM »

Good point

They'd be better off with an escort cruiser though, morre logical.
HTC has said that he dreams of adding a sub. There's the threat for them, as well as an ENEMY BB!!!

DiabloTX · « **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:03:56 AM »

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Originally posted by red26
If we get a Battle Ship I would like the USS Texas it was a nice ride in WWI and WWII not for shure of this but I think it even saw gun time in Korea and Veit Nam not for shure though.

Nope. After WWII it was almost sold to China. Thankfully it was bought by the state of Texas and brought to the San Jacinto battleground under the jurisdiction of the State Parks and Recreation department. Which is a shame, they neglected her almost to the point of ruin. I've chipped alot of paint on that battlewagon and never get tired of visiting her!

DiabloTX · « **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:06:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Reynolds
Hmmm. Most service would be a British Destroyer i think. Most shells would be American in the pacific, most UBER would be German though!

Most uber would be a tie between the Yamato class 18" and the 16"/50 cal US guns. They were more or less equal.

handy169 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 20, 2006, 10:04:26 AM »

yeah i was gonna say the yamato and her sister carried 18 inchers.. but all that firepower couldn't do much against air power

Angus · « **Reply #67 on:** July 20, 2006, 11:16:52 AM »

Important things:
Firepower
ROF
Fire control
Crew status

That's how a 6" ship can spank the one with 11"

Guppy35 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 20, 2006, 01:25:24 PM »

I've always been partial to the clipper bow US battleships, in particular the post Pear Harbor rebuilds of California and West Virginia. They look sleek, and WeeVee has those 16 inchers too

Angus · « **Reply #69 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:00:39 PM »

Looks wonderful.
And doesn't spoil it...she was on IWO JIMA

DiabloTX · « **Reply #70 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:49:52 PM »

I had the luck of being in the navy when the Iowa class BB's were in commission. We operated with the Iowa in the Med. doing a couple replenishments with her. I can tell you there is no more beautiful sight than that of the Iowa class at sea. It's the one memory I'll cherish above any other during my active duty time.

The Iowa's were truly a marvel of warship engineering. The punch of the Yamato's with greater accuracy, the seconday armament of 4 Fletcher class destroyers (or just over 3 Gearing class), the best damage control and fire control available, armor almost equaling that of the Yamato's, the top speed of many destroyers, the ability to turn with destroyers during maneuvers, and still able to fit (barely) through the Panama Canal. Without doubt the greatest BB class ever built.

To give you an idea how much had changed from the WWI era battlewagons to the Iowa's, check out this pic of the USS Wisconsin alongside the hulk of the USS Oklahoma:

Avenger1 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:43:14 PM »

What ever happened to the USS Oklahoma?

Guppy35 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:00:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Avenger1
What ever happened to the USS Oklahoma?

"The difficult savage job began in March 1943, and Oklahoma entered dry dock 28 December. Decommissioning 1 September 1944, Oklahoma was stripped of guns and superstructure, and sold 5 December 1946 to Moore Drydock Co., Oakland, Calif. Oklahoma parted her tow line and sank 17 May 1947 540 miles out, bound from Pearl Harbor to San Francisco."

very nice site on the Oklahoma at:

http://www.ussoklahoma.com/

Angus · « **Reply #73 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:40:44 PM »

Dan as usual

And Diablo:
"The Iowa's were truly a marvel of warship engineering. The punch of the Yamato's with greater accuracy, the seconday armament of 4 Fletcher class destroyers (or just over 3 Gearing class), the best damage control and fire control available, armor almost equaling that of the Yamato's, the top speed of many destroyers, the ability to turn with destroyers during maneuvers, and still able to fit (barely) through the Panama Canal. Without doubt the greatest BB class ever built. "

You're a Navy guy, - cool

Those ships were indeed the ultimate BB's. If AH would introduce the BB, I'd put my money on those. They're U.S. they were some by numbers and they were top-notch.
That said, I'd still like to see Bismarck, KGV, and Yamato

Bismarck for fame. Famous, good looking, and took a lot to sink.
KGV for service. Those were working a lot. Heavily armoured for surface engagements, and with a slightly smaller calibre the ROF is high.
Yamato for the bulk. Sheer bulk and big gunz!!!!

Avenger1 · « **Reply #74 on:** July 20, 2006, 10:20:20 PM »

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"The difficult savage job began in March 1943, and Oklahoma entered dry dock 28 December. Decommissioning 1 September 1944, Oklahoma was stripped of guns and superstructure, and sold 5 December 1946 to Moore Drydock Co., Oakland, Calif. Oklahoma parted her tow line and sank 17 May 1947 540 miles out, bound from Pearl Harbor to San Francisco."

Thank's Guppy35!