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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2005, 09:29:40 PM »
give us a hug sweet heart, and may i advise a little less eye liner. you have the most beautifull natural lashes!
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2005, 10:05:43 PM »
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stop spoiling my illusions!

i have only just got used to getting along with some of you guys who i know are only pretending to be -A-holes.

but whatever you say.  you have all placed yourselve as a squad up for instant judgement. in essence you have stated that none of you can think alone and you work as a unit to achieve a common goal together. ie: you're either with us or against us.

i have no hard feelings and never had any in the first place. just a persistant point of view, just like yours.

only difference was my point of view was purely mine. no one else influenced anything i ever posted.......
 


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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2005, 10:08:46 PM »
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 2) For those whom only wish to furball, it seems (and yes I've seen this
       mentioned on theses boards before) that the DA/CT is perfect for
       that pursuit. That being the case, why are those areas not
       overflowing with furballers?
   
And btw this is no troll... I HATE fishing LOL


just so you know, the CT is prime for strat since there's so few players to oppose it.

and FYI, in the DA there is also an area called Bomber Alley with a buncha strat stuff to destroy.

The TA would also be great for the straters since, again, there's so few to oppose any strategerizing.


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« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2005, 07:23:37 AM »
Shane

TA doesn't work for strat types, since they can't blow anything up.
(weapons lethality reduced to .0001)

TA would work better for furballers, but they need to either furball away from a1, or ask before engaging. Both seem to be equally impossible for furballers.

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« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2005, 07:42:11 AM »
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Ill tell you why. Cause people love to argue. Just for arguments sake.

And any human dislikes someone else having a different opinion on any given subject.

And why should *I* move if i can push around someone else just as easily?


No they DONT!

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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2005, 08:10:51 AM »
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the only solution to the ongoing problem is the sector ENY limit for a number of planes in peak time. this would force the strat fight to spread out more.
it would depend on ballancing unfair hordes out. if there was 50 planes against each other, nothing would be limited.



I've always been in favor of a numbers limiter on feilds kicked in by ENY
And ENY be kicked in by sector or zones. of say 2 sectors square

that is When ENY kicks in it also limits the numbers of  aircraft allowed up from any given feild within the effected sectors.

Somehow somethings should be done though I agree.
More often then not I am finding I am havng two choices.
Being horded or being part of a horde. as two hordes rarely end up meeting one another

While fun for a little while. Both get old very quickly
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2005, 08:27:34 AM »
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No they DONT!

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YES! They *do*!  :furious




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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2005, 07:09:46 PM »
Shane... CT IS prime for furballers for the very reason you suggest..
              so few players.
              DA seems to be perfect for furballers as in fact that is what
              is going on in there.
              TA doesn't work for either (except the very noobs) as despite
               what Gh says furballers can't kill each other and straters can't
               kill or drop anything.
Enjoy..
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« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2005, 07:13:35 PM »
Gh.. Unless I've missed something (highly possible), there is no place
        in TA where a furballer can kill an opponent nor can a Strater kill
        an object... if there is let me know as I do go there to practice the db
        thing.
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« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2005, 07:44:14 PM »
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Originally posted by Ramesis
Shane... CT IS prime for furballers for the very reason you suggest..
              so few players.
              DA seems to be perfect for furballers as in fact that is what
              is going on in there.
              TA doesn't work for either (except the very noobs) as despite
               what Gh says furballers can't kill each other and straters can't
               kill or drop anything.
Enjoy..
RAM



I don't think our definition of "furball" is the same.  You see, furballs are the best when there are LOTS of folks participating.  If I wanted a 1 on 1 "duel" I would head to the duelling arena.  If I want an all-out fight against a gaggle of people who are all there to kill each other, I look to the MA because there are hundereds of folks in that arena.  The odds of finding 20 or so who don't run away from a good fight is better than any other arena where there will be 20 folks total.  

Truth is, this horse has been beaten many times in the past.  Others have had this same false epiphany that you are describing here and it just doesn't shake out in the end.  The MA is where the action is, and thats where you'll find the furballers.  

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« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2005, 08:33:25 PM »
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Originally posted by Howitzer
I don't think our definition of "furball" is the same.  You see, furballs are the best when there are LOTS of folks participating.  If I wanted a 1 on 1 "duel" I would head to the duelling arena.  If I want an all-out fight against a gaggle of people who are all there to kill each other, I look to the MA because there are hundereds of folks in that arena.  The odds of finding 20 or so who don't run away from a good fight is better than any other arena where there will be 20 folks total.

Amen.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2005, 08:35:52 PM by DipStick »

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« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2005, 09:12:49 PM »
I wonder why more furballers target the bomber guys rather than the opportunistic players who fly above these furballs, taking kills etc.

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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2005, 03:12:46 PM »
mechanic, i was not aware that you were looking for a pretty single, sheep, stop by the pen, and lets see what we can find you?. I love new customers :)
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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2005, 03:44:49 PM »
I suspect that the Stratter's who think about stuff, and who post here, are rarely the ones causing the FHs to drop near furballs. I think it usually goes like this:


Timelog 1800: numbers dweeb ups into furball zone.
1803: numbers dweeb torched by unseen enemy
1804: ups again, resolved to be more careful
1807: actually sees the fighter that rips him apart
1808: decides to tail an actual friendly fighter to help give numbers some cover
1814: friendly uses some ACM that the dweeb cant follow (can you say "yo-yo"?)
1814 1/2: numbers dweeb gets picked and yells about check 6's
1819: numbers decides best way to "get" the enemy is to take out FH's
1830: FHs down, dweeb brags on country channel "FHs down thanks to XXX"


I suspect most furball base FHs are dropped by folks who cant win in a fight -- and no I'm not referring to guys who know how to play but like to buff. I suspect these FH dropping guys are mostly frustrated middle quartile players who are looking for a way to feel accomplished.





When in a furball zone, I dont usually see disaster when the hangars burn. I usually just hang around a bit more conservatively, and since most times the hangars didnt go down all at once its just a matter of  minutes till i can take off again. The players who are actually good usually can hold off the fight until the hangars are up, and the mediocrities like me can take off again to absorb some ordinance for them   ;)


When what's moving in is the horde, nothing works though.
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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2005, 06:08:38 PM »
Howitzer... you misunderstood my point and that is... if in fact there is
a group of people who ONLY wish to furball then there are venues that they can go to without the interruption of straters. Furballers who also enjoy the Strat aspect obviously will enjoy the MA. I was referring only to the pure furballer :)
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