Author Topic: Scary, in an wierd sort of way.  (Read 1498 times)

Offline Karnak

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« on: April 11, 2001, 06:32:00 PM »
While I sympathize with the feelings of the family of the lost Chinese pilot, this is scary:

BBC News Article

What do you guys think?  Nutty, or what?

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2001, 06:40:00 PM »
hmmm...

"the pride of the navy"


and he still can't fly formation.

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2001, 06:42:00 PM »
Sounds to me like they are trying to rally the Chinese people around a common bond-- hatred of the US for killing(?) one of their pilots.

Maybe this isn't the end. Afterall, why would you continue to press the people of a nation about the loss of one person to a "strong enem[y]."

Of course I could be wrong, it just sounds like they are trying to gain the nation's support for something... but what?
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2001, 03:59:00 AM »
Exclusive picture of Wrong way's last meal :

   


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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2001, 05:34:00 AM »
Spooky, that man died... Shame on you.

It's a kind of "humor" I never appreciate.

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2001, 06:30:00 AM »
I guess a couple of decades in a reeducation camp are in order for me then huh comrade ...


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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2001, 06:31:00 AM »
ROFL@spooky.....cmon spooky..you know idiots that nearley kill out people deserver more respect than that...afterall..they hold up darwins theory all by themselves.

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2001, 07:23:00 AM »
The Chinese leaders are simply using the "Tyrant's Handbook". I believe paragraph one on page one says something about creating a foreign devil. Paragraph two talks about deifying the people who die for you.

This turns the mob's attention away from domestic matters.

All governments try to get away with this. They usually do until the people wake up.

I'm a typical American working slob. I have no issues with any typical Chinese working slob. Our governments would have it otherwise.  

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2001, 08:01:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Spooky, that man died... Shame on you.

It's a kind of "humor" I never appreciate.


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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2001, 08:30:00 AM »
Spooky, look outside the window please. It's spring, year 2001, mr. McCarthy.

Eagler, maybe you are right, but it's not a reason to dance at this tombstone.

Wonder what a righteous indignation should arise if a US pilot dies under the same circumstances.

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Boroda:
Spooky, that man died... Shame on you.
Immediately after the accident US offered to help with a search and China declined. There was no way for anyone to know that soon what happened and whose fault it was.

 I venture to say there was no need for Chinese to know who was at fault and that they do not need or want that pilot alive. He is a good inspiration while dead but could prove to be embarrasment if alive - who knows what he would tell ten years later?
 For his sake I hope he died in the sea while no one was looking for him or allowed to look for him, rather then being found and disappeared by his own government.

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2001, 12:20:00 PM »
blur - you've hit the nail on the head.

It's like you say - the first rule in the Tyrant's handbook.

Just look at the timing of Margaret Thatcher's invasion of the Falklands.  

I think it is a rule in any leadership's book, but the true Tyrant makes it a central theme.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »
Why should we worry or even be concerned about “Wrong Way”.

From what I understand he frequently antagonized U.S. pilots.  I have even seen a picture of him flashing his e-mail address from his cockpit for those pilots he was antagonizing to respond to.  He was playing around and it got him killed.  

I wonder if he was thinking about checking his e-mail when he was spinning out in flames?

Yes a man died.  Yes he died due to his own error.  No I don’t give a rats arse how the family or his country feels.

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2001, 12:44:00 PM »
If the same thing happened to an American pilot, a lot of people here would STILL call the guy a moron for crashing into a lumbering propeller plane, regardless of what the media says.

Americans (well, some of them) don't always eat what the government spoon-feeds them.

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2001, 01:29:00 PM »
"Wonder what a righteous indignation should arise if a US pilot dies under the same circumstances"

Scary..I find myself agreeing with Boroda.
Had it been a Chinese "intelligence"-plane having a mid-air with a US fighter and the US pilot died, you would have been screaming bloody murder, no matter how it happened.

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