Aircraft/Vehicle Service Dates

[Mister Fork]

Hey everyone,

I know it's been done before, but in light of the new aircraft we're getting, can we please update the service dates for all?  If you know of one, I'll edit the list, and repost it until we're sure it's right.  I've bolded the ones that have always been debated, but I'd like to clarify all if possible.  

What are we looking for?

SERVICE DATES - THE DATES THEY WERE FLOWN OPERATIONALLY AND ACTIVE IN A SQUADRON, NOT OFF THE FACTORY FLOOR OR IN TESTING OR FINISHED DEVELOPMENT.

Document proof - i.e. Page 243, para 2,...the Spitfire V was operational with X squadron in August of 1941.  If you have months, please add.

Aircraft
USA
A-20G ... 5-42
B-17G ... 6-43*
B-26B ... 5-42
C-47A ... 12-41
P-38G ... ?
P-38J ... ?
P-38L ... 7-44
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
P-47D-11 ... 1-44?*
P-47D-25 ... 4-44
P-47D-40 ... 10-44?? - is this correct?
P-47N ... ?
P-51B ... 12-43
P51D ... 5-44?*
F4F-4 ... 41?
FM-2 ... 9-43
F6F ... 9-43*updated*
F4U-1 ... 10-42
F4U-1D ... 4-44
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
F6F-5 ... 7-44
SBD-5 ... 5-43?*
TBM-3 ... 1-42

Britian
Boston MK III ... 5-41
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40*updated*
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Lancaster III ... 3-42*
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43
Seafire IIC ... 10-42
Spitfire Mk IA ... 6-38
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44!*
Spitfire Mk XVI ... ?
Tempest V ... 5-44
Typhoon ... 6-42*

Soviet
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
La-5FN ... 3-43
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9T ... 1-43
Yak-9U ... 3-44

Italy
C.202 ... 11-41
C.205 ... 1-43

IJA/IJN
A6M2 ... 7-40
A6M5b ... 3-44!*
D3A-1 ... ?-37!
Ki-61-I-KAIc ... 1-44!
Ki-84-la ... ?
Ki-67 ... 4-44!*
N1K2-J ... 1-45*updated*

Germany
Ar 234B ... 12-44
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Bf 109G-2 ... 5-42
Bf 109G-6 ... 10-42
Bf 109G-10 ... 3-44
Bf 109G-14 ... ?
Bf 109K ...?
Bf 110C-4b ... 7-40
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Fw 190A-5 ... 3-43
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 9-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 3-44?
Ju 88A-4 ... 12-40
Me 262 ... 7-44
Ta 152H ... 2-45

*NEW*
Vehicles
USA
LVT(A)2 ...?
LVT(A)4 ...?
M-3 ...?
M-8 ...?
M-16 ...?

Germany
Ostwind ...?
Panzer IV Type H ...?
Tiger I ...?

Soviet
T-34 ..?

Notes:

*B-17G ... 6-43; The B-17G did enter service in 1943, however the B-17G in AH has the stepped waist guns and improved tail turret of a 1944 B-17G. This shouldn't have too much impact on gameplay though, being mainly limited to the greater range of movement in the tail turret.

*P-47D-11 ... 1-44?; This is based on my recollections of statements made by others in the "Give the P-47D-11 a paddle bladed prop" threads. However, given that the AH P-47D-11 lacks the paddle bladded prop it is a decent approximation of a P-47D-5, which entered service in 3-43.

*P51D ... 5-44?; The P-51D entered production in 2-44, so it clearly did not enter service in 1-44. I have looked and looked for a service entry date or a theatre arrival date for the P-51D, but have not (shockingly so given the aircraft's fame), been able to find even a hind. I am guestimating a 3 month lag between entering production and entering service.

*SBD-5 ... 5-43?; The SBD-5 entered production in 2-43, so like the P-51D I am guestimating a 3 month lag from production to service. I only found this information tonight (of course, I only looked for it tonight ) and have to admit to being somewhat disappointed in HTC about it. The SBD-5 introduced the 1,200hp R-1820-60, which brought with it a noticable performance jump. The SBD-2 and SBD-3 that fought the Battles of Coral Sea and Midway were powered by a 1,000hp engine and the SBD-2 lacked the dual rear gun. At the same time as we have a late SBD, we have an early D3A. The D3A1 is the aircraft that the Japanese used at Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea and Midway, but like the US with the SBD a better version was to be produced in greater quantity. The D3A2 entered production in 8-42 and boosted the top speed of the D3A by 39mph. As it is in AH, the US gets a over boosted aircraft and is in an artificial position of technical superiority, or greater superiority, than they should be.

*Lancaster III ... 3-42; The .50 calibre guns in the AH Lanc's tail mark it as a late war Lancaster, probably 1944. However, that change, particularly in light of its paltry ammunition supply (I'd probably prefer four .303s with 4,000 rounds), shouldn't have too much of an impact on the game. Limiting early access to the Lanc based on the tail turret might be justified.

*Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44!; The Spitfire entered service with 610 Squadron on January 3rd, 1944. 3-44 is the date of the first kill (a Ju88), but it was operational and on patrols prior to that.

*Typhoon ... 6-42; The only significant change, in the context of AH, that I am aware of is the change to a bubble canopy in late 1943. The performance of the Typhoon Mk Ib, so far as I can tell, remained relatively unchanged. The major difference between a 1942 Typhoon and a 1944 Typhoon was in it's reliability, which is a non-issue in AH.

*A6M5b ... 3-44!; The only difference between an A6M5a, which entered service in 1-44, and an A6M5b is the switching of one of the 7.7mm machine guns in the cowling for a 12.7mm machine gun. Substituting the A6M5b for A6M5b is reasonable. The A6M5 entered service in 8-43, but was significantly less pretected than the A6M5b. Nonetheless, this switch is probably still reasonable.

*Ki-67 ... 4-44!; The Ki-67 entered service with the IJA in 4-44. The first IJN usage as a torpedo bomber is in 10-44. Most Ki-67s were built in 1945.

*N1K2-J ... 11-44?; Production began in of the N1K2-J began in 6-44 and I have seen data that claiming that 60 were delivered in 1944. My best source for N1K2 combat entry is 150 miles away from me right now.

[Karnak]

Some of those dates are mine.

The only one that I would revise for certain right now is the N1K2-J.  The first combat operations I can find for it are 1-45.  I have no information on service dates prior to January, 1945 for it.

Spitfire Mk XIV service was in very small numbers until later in 1944.

The Spitfire Mk XVI is, for all purposes, identical to the Spitfire LF.Mk IXe so the earlist service date of either should work.  Some time in 1944 I'd think, but I don't have the date in my head.  Dan probably knows off the top of his.

[1K3]

Our Ki-61 is no longer the KAIc.  It is now Ki-61-Id and it enter service in 1944 (i dont have the month)

[Squire]

Im not sure how usefull it is to a CM to see 1938 for a Spit IA, whats he supposed to do with that, when the war started in 9-39? I would change that to 6-40 (after fall of France).

Hurricane IA should be 5-40 for the same reason 5-40 is the start date for the western front proper, unless you want scenarios involving the Phoney War?

Also, ETO and PAC dates are needed seperately, I would think.  P-38J in ETO and P-38J in PAC are not the same. Unless you dont want to get that deep into it, thats your call.  

Also, the 109G-10 is being removed in the next patch, and replaced with the 109K-4, at least, thats the indication.

*Also, it is not usefull (imho) to get too anal about sub type dates. Example: the A6M5b, yes, 3-44 sounds right, but there will never be numerous versions of the A6M5 in AH so, just use a more "generic" A6M5 date. 8-43 from Rabaul would be more sensible?, same with the F6F Hellcat, F6F-3 was used in 9-43 in the Solomons.

...and of course "date in service" does not tie the hands of a CM or CT staffer, its just meant as a guideline, thats all. I think thats worth repeating, just because its "Solomons January 44" doesnt mean any one a/c HAS to be there.  

I guess my old CM wiring is still partially active, your post brought out some old issues.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by 1K3
Our Ki-61 is no longer the KAIc.  It is now Ki-61-Id and it enter service in 1944 (i dont have the month)

Our Ki-61 is the the exact same Ki-61 it always was, it is just now labeled by the correct Japanese designation.  It would be nice if the Ki-84 were as well.

The version didn't change, the name was just corrected.

[Mister Fork]

If services dates are different for theatres, post them too.

Any info is helpful, especially for all bolded aircraft and the vehicles.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Mister Fork
Hey everyone,

I know it's been done before, but in light of the new aircraft we're getting, can we please update the service dates for all?  If you know of one, I'll edit the list, and repost it until we're sure it's right.  I've bolded the ones that have always been debated, but I'd like to clarify all if possible.  

What are we looking for?

SERVICE DATES - THE DATES THEY WERE FLOWN OPERATIONALLY AND ACTIVE IN A SQUADRON, NOT OFF THE FACTORY FLOOR OR IN TESTING OR FINISHED DEVELOPMENT.

Document proof - i.e. Page 243, para 2,...the Spitfire V was operational with X squadron in August of 1941.  If you have months, please add.

Aircraft
USA
A-20G ... 5-42
B-17G ... 6-43*
B-26B ... 5-42
C-47A ... 12-41
P-38G ... ?
P-38J ... ?
P-38L ... 7-44
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
P-47D-11 ... 1-44?*
P-47D-25 ... 4-44
P-47D-40 ... 10-44?? - is this correct?
P-47N ... ?
P-51B ... 12-43
P51D ... 5-44?*
F4F-4 ... 41?
FM-2 ... 9-43
F6F ... 9-43*updated*
F4U-1 ... 10-42
F4U-1D ... 4-44
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
F6F-5 ... 7-44
SBD-5 ... 5-43?*
TBM-3 ... 1-42

Britian
Boston MK III ... 5-41
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40*updated*
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Lancaster III ... 3-42*
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43
Seafire IIC ... 10-42
Spitfire Mk IA ... 6-38
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44!*
Spitfire Mk XVI ... ?
Tempest V ... 5-44
Typhoon ... 6-42*

Soviet
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
La-5FN ... 3-43
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9T ... 1-43
Yak-9U ... 3-44

Italy
C.202 ... 11-41
C.205 ... 1-43

IJA/IJN
A6M2 ... 7-40
A6M5b ... 3-44!*
D3A-1 ... ?-37!
Ki-61-I-KAIc ... 1-44!
Ki-84-la ... ?
Ki-67 ... 4-44!*
N1K2-J ... 1-45*updated*

Germany
Ar 234B ... 12-44
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Bf 109G-2 ... 5-42
Bf 109G-6 ... 10-42
Bf 109G-10 ... 3-44
Bf 109G-14 ... ?
Bf 109K ...?
Bf 110C-4b ... 7-40
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Fw 190A-5 ... 3-43
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 9-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 3-44?
Ju 88A-4 ... 12-40
Me 262 ... 7-44
Ta 152H ... 2-45

*NEW*
Vehicles
USA
LVT(A)2 ...?
LVT(A)4 ...?
M-3 ...?
M-8 ...?
M-16 ...?

Germany
Ostwind ...?
Panzer IV Type H ...?
Tiger I ...?

Soviet
T-34 ..?

Notes:

*B-17G ... 6-43; The B-17G did enter service in 1943, however the B-17G in AH has the stepped waist guns and improved tail turret of a 1944 B-17G. This shouldn't have too much impact on gameplay though, being mainly limited to the greater range of movement in the tail turret.

*P-47D-11 ... 1-44?; This is based on my recollections of statements made by others in the "Give the P-47D-11 a paddle bladed prop" threads. However, given that the AH P-47D-11 lacks the paddle bladded prop it is a decent approximation of a P-47D-5, which entered service in 3-43.

*P51D ... 5-44?; The P-51D entered production in 2-44, so it clearly did not enter service in 1-44. I have looked and looked for a service entry date or a theatre arrival date for the P-51D, but have not (shockingly so given the aircraft's fame), been able to find even a hind. I am guestimating a 3 month lag between entering production and entering service.

*SBD-5 ... 5-43?; The SBD-5 entered production in 2-43, so like the P-51D I am guestimating a 3 month lag from production to service. I only found this information tonight (of course, I only looked for it tonight ) and have to admit to being somewhat disappointed in HTC about it. The SBD-5 introduced the 1,200hp R-1820-60, which brought with it a noticable performance jump. The SBD-2 and SBD-3 that fought the Battles of Coral Sea and Midway were powered by a 1,000hp engine and the SBD-2 lacked the dual rear gun. At the same time as we have a late SBD, we have an early D3A. The D3A1 is the aircraft that the Japanese used at Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea and Midway, but like the US with the SBD a better version was to be produced in greater quantity. The D3A2 entered production in 8-42 and boosted the top speed of the D3A by 39mph. As it is in AH, the US gets a over boosted aircraft and is in an artificial position of technical superiority, or greater superiority, than they should be.

*Lancaster III ... 3-42; The .50 calibre guns in the AH Lanc's tail mark it as a late war Lancaster, probably 1944. However, that change, particularly in light of its paltry ammunition supply (I'd probably prefer four .303s with 4,000 rounds), shouldn't have too much of an impact on the game. Limiting early access to the Lanc based on the tail turret might be justified.

*Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44!; The Spitfire entered service with 610 Squadron on January 3rd, 1944. 3-44 is the date of the first kill (a Ju88), but it was operational and on patrols prior to that.

*Typhoon ... 6-42; The only significant change, in the context of AH, that I am aware of is the change to a bubble canopy in late 1943. The performance of the Typhoon Mk Ib, so far as I can tell, remained relatively unchanged. The major difference between a 1942 Typhoon and a 1944 Typhoon was in it's reliability, which is a non-issue in AH.

*A6M5b ... 3-44!; The only difference between an A6M5a, which entered service in 1-44, and an A6M5b is the switching of one of the 7.7mm machine guns in the cowling for a 12.7mm machine gun. Substituting the A6M5b for A6M5b is reasonable. The A6M5 entered service in 8-43, but was significantly less pretected than the A6M5b. Nonetheless, this switch is probably still reasonable.

*Ki-67 ... 4-44!; The Ki-67 entered service with the IJA in 4-44. The first IJN usage as a torpedo bomber is in 10-44. Most Ki-67s were built in 1945.

*N1K2-J ... 11-44?; Production began in of the N1K2-J began in 6-44 and I have seen data that claiming that 60 were delivered in 1944. My best source for N1K2 combat entry is 150 miles away from me right now.

Think ya missed the B-24


Bronk

[Karnak]

Geez Bronk, you didn't need to quote that whole monster list just for a one line post.

[Tilt]

Yak 9 U

Whilkst the 9U was commited to production in April44 the first batch was plagued with engine troubles and regimental conversion was slow to the type.

The first unit to be issued with Yak9U's (42GIAD)was not coverted for service until August 44.

It is possible that some other units were issued later but converted earlier than 42GIAD

Noting that the title is service dates I think 7/8-44 is as early as could be expected on this type.

[Bruno]

AC Service Dates

P-47D-11

P-47D arrives in the UK April 1943.
USAAF Fighters of WW2 Micheal O'Leary.

D-5 Spring 1943- summer 1943
D-11 Fall 1943- early winter 1943

The thing about P-47s, and in particular the Ds ,is that once a new variant entered service the previous variants were then upgraded with kits supplied to the squadrons. Since the D-11 doesn't have the paddle blade prop it can stand in for D-5. The only real exception is range (drop tanks), which in ToD and scenarios should mean something.

My suggestion prior to the inclusion of the P-47N (which is all but useless for WETO ToDs) was to give the D-11 the Hamilton PB prop and add a D-5 or C-5.

My point though is the P-47D-11 can stand in for a D-5 (April '43) if not the late '43 early '44 for squadron service. I don't think it should stand in for earlier variants because these would be variants without the 'upgrades'.

P-51D

P-51D May 1944.
375th and 376th Fighter Sqns.

Typhoon...

Typhoon Sabre IIa +9lbs April 1943. The Hawker Typhoon and Tempest. Mason

The AH2 Typhoon has a max of 7 lbs boost but its top speed and climb show this must be in error. Its unknown to me what engine / boost (thus what year for squadron service) the AH2 Typhoon should have.

See this thread: Typhoon speed performance

From those with more expertise then I, they seem to think it's some sort of hybrid in terms of engine, prop, max boots, speed and climb. Its certainly far exceeds the performance of an early Ib...

109G-2...

The first units, III/JG 52 and I/JG 54, received their G-2s in June 1942. The first loss reports are from July 7th and 8th 1942. (Prien & Rodeike)
Squadron Service Entry-date: June 1942

109G-6...

Bf 109 G-6 'early' (framed canopy short tail etc..)
G-6 Entered service and saw action with II/JG 53, II/JG 77, JG 27 and JG 51 in February 1943. (Prien & Rodeike)
Squadron Service Entry-date: February 1943

Bf 109G-14 ... ?

G-14 entered service with II/JG 11 and Stab/JG 53 in July 1944.
Squadron Service Entry-date: July 1944

Bf 109K ...?

K-4 entered service with III/JG 4, Stab+I,II,III,IV/JG 27 and II/Jg 77 in October 1944. (Prien & Rodeike, H. Valtonen)

110C-4/b...

Only 20 Bf 110C-4 were fitted with DB601N.

This total applies to both C-4 and C-4/B, even for the C-7 which was a "serialized" C-4/B. Only 7 out of 39 aircraft were equipped with DB601N.

Erprobungsgruppe 210, the fighter-bomber unit in 1940, flew several different variants of the Bf 110. The 'C-6', which 1. Staffel, ZG 1, brought with them upon redesignation to 1./Erpr. Gr. 210, had a 30 mm. MG 101 Kanone in place of the two 20 mm. Kanone. Stab and 2nd Staffel were equipped with Bf 110 D-0/Bs from the outset. As the BoB progressed, and replacement aircraft were issued to the unit, the 'D-0's started to be equipped with the uprated DB 601 N engine. However as late as 27 September 1940 there was evidence of the unit using a 'D' with a 601 A engine (Gruppenkommandeur Martin Lutz's S9+DH shot down at Tarrant Gunville on that date). In the later stages of the BoB, the unit were flying the new 'E' version, evidenced by it beginning to appear in the damage/loss lists. Also the unit recorded the loss of a Bf 110 C-7 in November. The 'C-7' was an earlier-version Bf 110, sent to a repair facility, outfitted with bomb racks, and re-designated as a 'C-7' variant. Hence you will find 'C-7's with W.Nr. that relate to earlier sub-variant types. The bible on all of this is the Petrick/Mankau book:

'Bf110/Me210/Me410'..

The standard BoB 110C...

110-C January 1939.
An Illustrated Anatomy of the Worlds Fighters. Green and Swanborough

190A-5...

FW190A-5 February 1943.
1./JG26

Fw 190A-8 ...

Dec '43..

However, the A8 was not cleared for C-3 injection / Erhöhte Notleistung until 20.01.44 in both stages (1.58ata / 1.65 ata).

C-3 injection was only used in the low SC gear, but not in the second stage. On 20.01.44 BMW cleared the usage for the high blower stage too, for all FW190.

Fw 190F-8...

F-8 production began in March '44 deliveries to squadron and squadron service came quick, with in the month...

Ta-152...

Ta-152H on 27 Janurary 1945.
III/JG301 and Stab JG301.
Dietmar Harmann "Focke-Wulf Ta 152", ISBN 0-7643-0860-2

I am out of time I will try to fill in more gaps later...

[Bruno]

Originally posted by Squire
Im not sure how usefull it is to a CM to see 1938 for a Spit IA, whats he supposed to do with that, when the war started in 9-39? I would change that to 6-40 (after fall of France).

Hurricane IA should be 5-40 for the same reason 5-40 is the start date for the western front proper, unless you want scenarios involving the Phoney War?
 

Hurricane MK I January 1938.
111 SQN The Hawker Hurricane. Francis K Mason.

+12lbs boost as of March 1940. A.P. 1590B/J.2-W
All Merlin III fitted with C.P props by August 1940.

Spitfire MK Ia August 1938.

19 SQN . The British Fighters Since 1912. Francis K Mason.

+12lbs boost as of March 1940. All Merlin III fitted with C.P props by August 1940.

[Mister Fork]

to date...

Aircraft
USA
A-20G ... 5-42
B-17G ... 6-43*
B-24 ... ?
B-26B ... 5-42
C-47A ... 12-41
P-38G ... ?
P-38J ... ?
P-38L ... 7-44
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
P-47D-11 ... 3-43(D5)/1-44*updated*
P-47D-25 ... 4-44
P-47D-40 ... 10-44?? - is this correct?
P-47N ... ?
P-51B ... 12-43
P51D ... 5-44?*
F4F-4 ... 41?
FM-2 ... 9-43
F6F ... 9-43*updated*
F4U-1 ... 10-42
F4U-1D ... 4-44
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
F6F-5 ... 7-44
SBD-5 ... 5-43?*
TBM-3 ... 1-42

Britian
Boston MK III ... 5-41
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40*updated*
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Lancaster III ... 3-42*
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43
Seafire IIC ... 10-42
Spitfire Mk IA ... 8-38 *updated*
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44!*
Spitfire Mk XVI ... ?
Tempest V ... 5-44
Typhoon ... 4-43*updated*

Soviet
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
La-5FN ... 3-43
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9T ... 1-43
Yak-9U ... 7/8-44 *updated*

Italy
C.202 ... 11-41
C.205 ... 1-43

IJA/IJN
A6M2 ... 7-40
A6M5b ... 3-44!*
D3A-1 ... ?-37!
Ki-61-I-KAIc ... 1-44!
Ki-84-la ... ?
Ki-67 ... 4-44!*
N1K2-J ... 1-45*updated*

Germany
Ar 234B ... 12-44
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Bf 109G-2 ... 6-42 *updated*
Bf 109G-6 ... 2-43 *updated*
Bf 109G-10 ... 3-44
Bf 109G-14 ... 7-44 *updated*
Bf 109K-4 ... 10-44 *updated*
Bf 110C-4b ... 1-39 *updated*
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Fw 190A-5 ... 2-43 *updated*
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 9-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 4-44 *updated*
Ju 88A-4 ... 12-40
Me 262 ... 7-44
Ta 152H ... 1-45 *updated*

*NEW*
Vehicles
USA
LVT(A)2 ...?
LVT(A)4 ...?
M-3 ...?
M-8 ...?
M-16 ...?

Germany
Ostwind ...?
Panzer IV Type H ...?
Tiger I ...?

Soviet
T-34 ..?

[Karnak]

The updated Hurricane Mk I date presumes that the Battle of France is the earliest scenario that will be done.  I personally recall a CT setup for the Invasion of Norway which is earlier and the Hurri I was used there too.

The Hurri I should be usable in any of the earlist setups involving the British.


The T-34/76 we have is from late 1942 as I recall, but the changes to the T-34/76 are pretty minor so it should be usable in anything other than a Winter War setup and at this point we lack all the aircraft needed for that as well.  T-34/76 is good for the entire Soviet war.


The F6F-5 is only usable in 1943 as a stand in.  When/if we get an F6F-3 it should not be considered a 1943 fighter.

[Squire]

Ok, here are some.

I wont bother with page #s or authors, if you want to dispute the dates go ahead, no skin off my nose:

A6M5 Zero* 8-43 "A6M Zero in action" Squadron Signal.

F6F** 9-43 "Hellcat Aces" Osprey

P-51B (CBI) 8-44 "Mustang Aces Pac" Osprey

P-51D (CBI)  1-45 "Mustang Aces Pac" Osprey

P-51D (PACIFIC) 1-45 "Mustang Aces Pac" Opsrey

P-51B (RAF Mustang III) 2-44 "Mustang Aces RAF" Osprey

P-51D (RAF Mustang IV) 3-45 "Mustang Aces RAF" Osprey

P-47D*** (PACIFIC) 6-43 "Mustang/Thunderbolt Aces Pac" Osprey

P-38G (PACIFIC) 1-43 "Lightning Aces Pac" Osprey

P-38J (PACIFIC) 2-44 "Lightning Aces Pac" Osprey

P-38L (PACIFIC) 10-44 "Lightning Aces Pac" Osprey

P-38G (ETO) 1-43 "Lightning Aces ETO" Osprey

P-38J (ETO) 12-43 "Lightning Aces ETO" Osprey

Spitfire IA **** 5-40 (ETO Dunkirk) "Spit I Aces" Osprey

Hurricane IA 5-40 (ETO France or Norway )

Bf 109K-4 10-44 "Bf 109F-K  Aces" Osprey

Spitfire XIV ***** 9-44 "Late Spit Aces" Osprey

Tempest 6-44 "Typhoon/Tempest Aces" Osprey

Typhoon IB (late)****** 6-43 "Typhoon/Tempest Aces" Osprey

Spitfire LF IXE/XVIE ******* 6-44

Ki-84 ********8-44 (CBI)/ 10-44 (PAC) "IJAAF Aces" Osprey

Me262 10-44 (Kommando Nowotny) "German Jet Aces" Osprey

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Notes:

*A6M5

**F6F-3

***P-47D-2

****First regular clashes with LW after this date.

*****Deployed to Holland 9-44 for 1st real non ADGB duty (anti V-1 raids). 1-44 was operational with 610 Sqn in Britain.

******First use of Tiffie IB with bombload.

******* Spit LF IX was 3-43, "E wing" not untill @6-44.

******** PAC date is Phillipines invasion.

I will do a seperate post on the British Fleet Air Arm later, bz right now to get all the dates at the moment.

[Bruno]

The updated Hurricane Mk I date presumes that the Battle of France is the earliest scenario that will be done.

The presumption doesn't only lay there, it comes with the fact that there are currently no AH planes modeled for BoF or earlier.

I was going to post the opposite for the Spit 1a. It should read as March or latest August '40 rather then '38. It does have cp prop and 12 lbs boost (actual in game performance many vary )...