40 years ago.

[straffo]

 

Originally posted by Eagler:
Twenty years ago today the US of A launched the 1st space shuttle. This feat has not been duplicated by any other country in the world and doesn't look like it will any time soon    
 http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/archives/sts-1/index.html

 The space race was just another race the Russians lost to the US..

   

Eagler

[This message has been edited by Eagler (edited 04-12-2001).]

The fact the NASA choose the SAME date is innocent ?
Btw it won't change anything the race for the 1st man in space was lost 20 year before  .
I doubt that in 100 year anyone cab recall of the shuttle but Gagarine won't be forgiven
as he was a man not a machine

[leonid]

Yuri Gagarin <S!>

Cosmonauts & Astronauts <S!>

All for the search of Knowledge, and the Truth which lies within.

[straffo]

ya forgot "Spacionautes"  
(for Europeans  )

[Boroda]

Funked, don't make me laugh  

There were 7 launches of Vostok before Gagarin flew, only 3 were successful. But Gagarin was the first man who flew it.

BTW, USSR announced that we launched a man to space immediately after takeoff, so peasants who met Gagarin when he landed already knew he's a cosmonaut, not another American spy shot down.

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With respect,
    Pavel Pavlov,
    Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS

[Dinger]

Yet Gagarin denied for many years taking a camera with him, when we know that both he and his predecessor ilyushin were snapping photos of American military installations.

[Toad]

Boroda's new theme song for the USSR:

<Bruce Springsteen:  "Glory Days">

Now I think I'm going down to the well tonight
and I'm going to drink till I get my fill
And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it
but I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days

Glory days well they'll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl's eye
Glory days, glory days


Glory days well they'll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl's eye
Glory days, glory days

 

[Boroda]

Toad, unfortunately I have to admit that you are right.

 

DDT has a song, written in 1991, called almost like another Sprigstin's song: "Born in the USSR". "Yesterda you were a master of an empire, but now you are an orphan"...

Here is a link to an MP3 file:
 http://www.rmp.ru/rus-mp3.asp?i=873

It's a song they sang on the barricades in August, 1991...

В начале был вечер,
Потом настал я.
Вчера слово да ветер,
Сегодня земля.
На кладбище старом,
Где воскресали враги
Я кое-что понял,
Встав с левой ноги.

Припев:
   Э..э-й,
   Рожденный в СССР!
   Э..э-й,
   Рожденный в СССР!

Ни  секунды без драки,
Верим в жизнь и смерть.
В глаза твоей собаки
Нам не страшно смотреть.
Сегодня, победа,
Пойми и прости.
Нам ничего не осталось,
Но есть, что донести.

Припев:

Ты чем дальше, тем круче
Ты почти закат.
Здравствуй, древняя Русь,
Я твой нервный брат.

Что вернет нам надежда?
Что спасет красота?
Ты вчера был хозяин империи,
А теперь сирота.

Припев: *2



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With respect,
    Pavel Pavlov,
    Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS

[Ripsnort]

Borado, you are very young (under 30 right) and most of the cold war you experienced was at an age that you wouldn't have understood it very well.

No one "won" the cold war, not the US, not Russia, in the long run, we just had a bunch of losers!

Let's drop these Cold Wars we have on the BBS, and accept each other for what we are, rather than spewing arrogance, who did what first, etc. etc.  The war is OVER.

Peace Brothers!

(And Borado, don't drink so much!  )

[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by Boroda:
Toad, unfortunately I have to admit that you are right.

 

DDT has a song, written in 1991, called almost like another Sprigstin's song: "Born in the USSR". "Yesterda you were a master of an empire, but now you are an orphan"...

Here is a link to an MP3 file:
 http://www.rmp.ru/rus-mp3.asp?i=873

It's a song they sang on the barricades in August, 1991...

В начале был вечер,
Потом настал я.
Вчера слово да ветер,
Сегодня земля.
На кладбище старом,
Где воскресали враги
Я кое-что понял,
Встав с левой ноги.

Припев:
   Э..э-й,
   Рожденный в СССР!
   Э..э-й,
   Рожденный в СССР!

Ни  секунды без драки,
Верим в жизнь и смерть.
В глаза твоей собаки
Нам не страшно смотреть.
Сегодня, победа,
Пойми и прости.
Нам ничего не осталось,
Но есть, что донести.

Припев:

Ты чем дальше, тем круче
Ты почти закат.
Здравствуй, древняя Русь,
Я твой нервный брат.

Что вернет нам надежда?
Что спасет красота?
Ты вчера был хозяин империи,
А теперь сирота.

Припев: *2

Everyone ... Sing Along !!!  

(looking for Russian plug-in translator)
Eagler

[mx22]

LOL Mike

There was only one guy who died before Gagarin flew, it happened during some sort of ground test and fire broke out inside of the capsule. He was burned alive Other then that, there were no other deaths, until much later on. Even Histry Channel doesn't alter real history as much you just did

mx22

 

Originally posted by funked:
The first man to orbit the earth died in space, due to inferior Soviet technology, and his name is still a Red secret.  

The second person to orbit the earth was Vladimir Ilyushin.  But due to Communist technical incompetence his capsule landed in China, and he was severely injured, so the Reds covered up his mission as well.  

Gagarin was launched a day later, and became the third man to fly in orbit.  However this only makes his accomplishment more impressive, as it must have required true bravery to strap into a machine which had just killed one man and left another near death!

However his bravery was repaid in cruel fashion, when in 1968 it was decided that he was "unreliable" and too much of a risk to expose the truth because of his feelings of guilt over the whole affair.  So his aircraft was sabotaged, and the rest, as they say, is "history".

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 04-12-2001).]

[Toad]

Boroda,

I think it must lose something in the on-line translator? Would you care to correct this?

I'm with Rip. I'm just glad the Cold War is over and glad that it ended without a "BANG". We all were (and are) lucky.

I hope everyone realizes NOW how pointless it all was.

I hope and pray that we all don't have to go through this again with the Chinese.

Translated ( ) by: http://www.toogeyes3-d.com/trans.html


In the beginning evening was, I have then come.
Yesterday a word yes a wind, Today the ground.
On a cemetery old Where enemies I something revived has understood, Having risen with of the left leg.  

Born in the USSR!
Born in the USSR!

Seconds without fight, we Trust in life and death.
In eyes of your dog it is not terrible to us to look.
Today, a victory, Understand and forgive.
To us of nothing remained, But is what to inform

Born in the USSR!
Born in the USSR!

You the further, the more abruptly you almost a decline.
Hi, ancient Russia, I your nervous brother. What the hope will return to us?
What the beauty will rescue?
You yesterday were the owner of empire, And now the orphan.

Born in the USSR!
Born in the USSR!
   

[funked]

Damn I spend two hours digging up such great bait, and I can't catch any fishies!  I was going to make up some stuff but then I found some idiots with that web site, who had already made up a great story.  I made up the part about Gagarin by myself though.  

The guy who actually died (on the ground) was Valentin Bondarenko.  RIP.

<S> to Gagarin for his huge balls (and being the first man in orbit)!!!

[Dinger]

Damn, then I saw Mike's troll, and went digging myself.
I _did_ find sites that actually claimed what Funked said he "made up" about Gagarin.
Evidently, he was drinking heavily and feeling guilty about not being the first, and shooting his mouth off.
It's all a lie; but there's a TV documentary out there that claims to have spoken with "Ilyushin himself" and further substantiate this BS.
This stuff is even more fun than the "faked moonlanding" crap.

[Boroda]

Toad, let me correct the robotranslator and ad some comments. Yuri Shevchuk, DDT leader, writes strange and passionate lyrics, kinda hard to translate. BTW, RedAnt once told me he worked with DDT when they were recording some tracks in NYC.

At the beginning there was evning,
Then came I.
Yesterday there were word and the wind,
Today there is land.
On an old cemetery
Where enemies were resurrecting
I understood some things
After waking up from left foot.
/* "to wake up from left foot" (vstat' s levoy nogi) means to spoil your day from the very beginning, to wake up in a bad or agressive mood */

Not even a second without a fight,
/* "draka" means fist-fight, not a "battle" */
We believe in life and death,
We're not afraid to look
Into your watchdog's eyes.
Today it's a Victory,
So - understand and forgive.
There is nothing left for us,
But we have something to bring to you so you will be able to understand it.
/* my unsuccessful attempt to translate the verb "donesti", please note that "donesti" here is a different word, not "donesti" as a form of "donosit'" = "to inform, to whistle". */

You get harder and harder /* more tough */ as you go on,
You are almost a sunset now.
I greet you, Ancient Russia,
I am your nervous brother.
What the hope will return to us?
What the beauty will save?
/* "Beauty will save the world", a quote from Russian classic. */
You were a master of Empire yesterday,
But now you are an orphan.

Here is a link to a video clip: http://www.ddt.ru/video/cccr.rm

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With respect,
    Pavel Pavlov,
    Commissar 25th IAP WB VVS

[Revvin]

To the jingoistic Americans who posted..hold your heads in shame, Boroda posted marking this feat, not as a slur on anyone just making a post to commemorate the occassion. Ripsnort is right, the cold war was over years ago, no winners just a end to a worrying period in time, why you guys have to post back your jingoistic chest beating roadkill is beyond me! <S> To Ripsnort for proving there are rational Americans who can give credit to other countries for their endeavours.